Hmmm...I'm having a little trouble with this Qu'ran verse?
[9:5] Once the Sacred Months are past, you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
Can anyone help me understand what the great and peaceful Prophet Mohammed means exactly in this passage? I'm afraid I'm a bit confused...
2009-05-06T19:26:57Z
Okay, I asked this before but I got mixed answers...is naskh (abrogation) a universal muslim concept or is it only accepted by certain sects?
2009-05-06T19:41:58Z
There are, according to Ibn Salama, [Op cit., see pp.6-8 for the names of these suras.] a well-known author on the subject:
43 suras with neither nasikh or mansukh. 6 suras with nasikh but no mansukh. 40 suras with mansukh but no nasikh. 25 suras with both nasikh and mansukh. According to Suyuti's Itqan there are 21 instances in the Qur'an, where a revelation has been abrogated by another.
He also indicates that there is a difference of opinion about some of these: e.g. 4: 8, 24: 58, etc. [Itqan, II, pp.20-3; Kamal, op.cit., pp.101-9 also gives Suyuti's complete list.]
Some scholars have attempted to reduce the number of abrogations in the Qur'an even further, by explaining the relationships between the verses in some special ways, e.g. by pointing out that no legal abrogation is involved, or that for certain reasons the naskh is not genuine
Shah Waliullah (d. 1759) the great Muslim scholar from India only retained the following 5 out of Suyuti's 21 cases as genuine
I don't want to sound biased to either side, but either you're website or mine is wrong--but is the guy my website's talking about, Ibn Salama, a respected author in the Muslim community?
stardust.2009-05-06T19:20:11Z
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It means put Allah first and throw out the trash. Also idol worshipers are rare these days as most people are theist (They believe in a God) regardless of whether that God is Allah or not,for there is no compulsion in religion, but you HAVE to believe that God exists !!
Dear friend, I'm noot going to answer your question because: 1. It is not the first time that you are trying to question the Quran. 2. If i spend one month to prove the truth, after that period, you will post your next question and I have to spend time again to answer your question. 3. No one can convince you if you yourself are, patetly, inclined to another side.
Dear brother, 1. If you eant to receive guidance from the Quran, a. read it completely. b. read every verse in the textual and historical context. c. read every verse trying to understand what it means, and do not try to make it mean waht you understand!
2. Everyone can enjoy the Quran. But if you want to find out the rules and other details from the Quran, you must study for a while an become specialized. Can you cite a sentence or even a passage in philosophy, or in mathematics and find contradictions in them or question them simply because you do not understand them?! Every sensible person will tell you to first get specialized in those fields and then question them.
3. The Quran is a guidance for the pious ones. (The beginnig of Baqarah chapter.) If you like to get guidance from the Quran, first try to be honest with yourself and to be pious.
Dear brother, please cogitate on the following verse in your own privacy and quiet. and ask Allah to show you the light of the Quran.
Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors.
You have the wrong interpretation of naskh; the Qur'aan does not abrogate itself; it abrogates the previous scriptures, but more importantly, the translation is "cause to be forgotten" which is what you see in some of the ahaadeeth of Sahih Bukhaaree.
I see one of your questions talks about "contradictions in the Qur'aan" but there are not any; I don't have the time to refute them for you, so here is a site that has already done that:
This is my last edit as I have to go to work; if you wish to continue the coversation, e-mail me.
The site I have posted has actual authentic resources. The site you posted is "answering-Islam," a biased site that does not post rebuttals from Muslims. The names you have mentioned are unknown. The 'uleemaa of today recognizes that the Qur'aan neither contradicts nor abrogates itself.
ok 1 dont listen to interpretations of the Al Quran without reference to Tasfeer its Haraam
I have a Tasfeer
It might be long.
Existing Peace Treaties remained vaild until the End of their Term
This is an exception regulating the longest extent of time for those who have a general treaty-with out time mentions-to four months. They would have four months to travel the lands in search of sanctuary for themselves wherever they wish.Those whose treaty mentioned a specifec limited term, then the longest it would extend was to the point of its agreed upon termination date. Hadiths in this regard preceeded. So anyone who had a treaty with Allah's Messenger, it lasted until its spercific termination date.However,those in this category were required to refrain from breaking the terms of the agreement with Muslims and from helping non-Muslims against Muslims. This is the tupe of whose peace agreement with Muslims was carried out to it's end.Allah encouraged honroing such peae treaties saying, (Surely, Allah loves those who have Taqa)9:4, who keep their promises(5. So when the sacred months have passed, then fight the mushrikin wherever you find them,and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush.But if they repent and perform the Salah, and give Zakah, then leave their way free.Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving,Most Merciful.)
This is the Ayah of the Sword
Mujahid, 'Amr bin Shu'ayb, Muhammad bin Ishaq, Qatadah, As-Suddi and 'Abur Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslma said that the four months mentioned in this Ayah are the the four-month grace period mentioned in the earlier Ayah, (So travel freely for four months throughout the land.) All said next, (So when the Sacred Months have passed...), meaning, 'Upon the end of the four months during which We prohibited you from fighting the idiolators, and which is the grace period We gave them, then fight and kill the idolators whenever you may find them.' Allahs statement next, (then fight the Mushrikin wherever you find them), means, on the earth in gernal, except for the sacred Area, for Allah said (And fight not with them At Al-Masjid Al -Haram,unless they fight you there.But if they attack you, then fight them)2:191 Allah said here (and capture them),executing some and keeping some as prisioners, (and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush), do not wait until you find them.Rather seek and besiege them in their areas and forts, gather intelligence about them in various roads and fairways so that what is made wide looks ever smaller to them. This way, the will have no choice, but to die or embrace Islam, (But if the repent and perform the Salah, and give the Zakah, then leave their way free.Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful) Abu Bakr As-Siddiq used this and other honorable Ayat as proof for fighting those who refrained from paying the Zakah.These Ayat allowed fighting people unless,and until,they embrace Islam and implement its rulings, and obligations.Allah mentioned the most important aspects of Islam here, including what is less important.Surely, the highest elements of Islam after the Two Testimonials, and the prayer, which is the right of Allah,the Exalted and Ever High,then the Zakah, which benifits the poor and needy.These are the most honorable acts that creatures perform, and this is why Allah often mentions the prayer and Zakah togeather.In the two Sahihs,it is recorded that Ibn 'Umar said that the Messenger of Allah said, (I have been commanded to fight the people until they testify that there is no diety wothy of worship except Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah,establish the prater and pay the Zakah) This hornorable AYah(9:5) was called the Ayah of the Sword,about which Ad-Dahhak bin Muzahim said, "It abrogated every agreement of peace between the Prophet and any idolator,every treaty, and every term." Al-'Awifi said that Ibn 'Abbas commented: "No idolator had any more treaty or promise of safety ever since Surah Bara'ah was revealed.The four months,in addition to, all peace treaties conducted before Bara'ah was revealed and announced had ended by the tenth month of Rabbi' Al-Akhir" (6. And if anyone of the Mushrikin seeks your protection then grant him protection so that he may hear the word of Allah(the Qur'an) and then escort him to where he can be secure,that is because they are men who know not.)
Read it full man... and also check for the event and details you will get the best answer if you do your own research rather..then poninting out incomplete sentences.