so which pitcher wins 300 games after randy johnson.?
jamie moyer and pedro martinez will not make it that far. so who will
jamie moyer and pedro martinez will not make it that far. so who will
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It's going to be close on who gets to 300 first, Randy Johnson or the Nationals. Since moving to Washington in 2005 the Nationals have won 81, 71, 73, 59, and thus far in 2009, 13. That's a total of 297 victories. Johnson has 299.
Here is a list of active pitchers that either have a lot of wins or are good pitchers along with their age, number of victories, and average number of wins needed to reach 300 wins at age 40.
Jamie Moyer (46) 249 xx
Andy Pettitte (37) 219 27.00
Pedro Martinez (37) 214 28.67
Tim Hudson (33) 146 22.00
Roy Halladay (32) 139 20.13
Roy Oswalt (31) 130 18.89
Mark Buehrle (30) 128 17.20
C.C. Sabathia (28) 121 14.92
Johan Santana (30) 116 18.40
Carlos Zambrano (28) 99 16.75
Jake Peavy (28) 91 17.42
Felix Hernandez (23) 44 15.06
Tim Lincecum (25) 29 18.07
So in order of best chance I'd go with
C.C. Sabathia
Felix Hernandez
Mark Buerhle
Johan Santana
Jake Peavy
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Well, CC Sabathia was my frontrunner until he signed with the Yankees, as he was nearly halfway there and was only 28 years old. Few starting pitchers will get wins at Yankee Stadium, and he's already been struggling. Pitching there is going to severely damage his chances of racking up another 150 wins by the age of 40 however.
Andy Pettite does have a chance at it, but he's going to need to pitch well into his 40's, and rack up a couple more 20 win seasons to boot. It's possible for him to do it, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.
After those two, we're talking about longshots and young players that might not have the longevity. Lincecum, Felix Hernandez, Chad Billingsley, and especially Rick Porcello. All these guys have the talent to win 300, but do they have the longevity to win 15-20 games each year until they're 40 or so? That's a tall order, and right now it's just speculation.
M. Diego
Andy Pettite has a legitimate chance, then Roy Halladay might be next.
EDIT:
I want to add, it's not the first time I hear that some pitcher will be the last to win 300.
When Nolan Ryan did it, he was supposed to be the last one, because a primed Roger Clemens looked too far away and Maddux was beginning to even get consideration....Clemens and Maddux did it 10 years after.
When Clemens and Maddux did it, a 36 year old Tom Glavine needed almost 80 wins and he was not going to be capable.....Glavine did it.
After Glavine nobody was going to do it again, a 38 year old Randy Johnson was not close enough because he needed 75 and he was going to slow down sooner than later....The Big Unit needs only one.
Nowadays a few pitchers that you mentioned are in the situations that the last guys once were.
albert
Many have already said Johnson will likely be the last person to reach 300 wins. The days of dominating pitching and poor baseball tactics and managing are over. It is possible that another young pitching phantom could achieve that, like Phil Hughes or Billingsley, but, baseball has changed a lot over the years that has made pitching much tougher than it was during the era of dominating pitching.
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Anyone who says "never again", I will gladly take large money against you. Willing? Sure, it'll take 20 years to settle up, but YOU ARE WRONG and history establishes this.
Martinez would, if anyone would sign him. But that's probably not gonna happen.
The only starters today that I have any good feelings about, and they're both still a long ways off, are Halladay and Oswalt. And Roy's already made grumblings about only wanting to pitch a few more years, and then retire to move dirt around or something.