The Scourge of Obamacare (Government health care) ?

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10 Questions for Supporters of 'ObamaCare'
by Dennis Prager (Copyright © 2009 Salem Web Network.)
Tuesday, July 28, 2009

1. President Barack Obama repeatedly tells us that one reason national health care is needed is that we can no longer afford to pay for Medicare and Medicaid. But if Medicare and Medicaid are fiscally insolvent and gradually bankrupting our society, why is a government takeover of medical care for the rest of society a good idea? What large-scale government program has not eventually spiraled out of control, let alone stayed within its projected budget? Why should anyone believe that nationalizing health care would create the first major government program to "pay for itself," let alone get smaller rather than larger over time? Why not simply see how the Democrats can reform Medicare and Medicaid before nationalizing much of the rest of health care?

2. President Obama reiterated this past week that "no insurance company will be allowed to deny you coverage because of a pre-existing medical condition." This is an oft-repeated goal of the president's and the Democrats' health care plan. But if any individual can buy health insurance at any time, why would anyone buy health insurance while healthy? Why would I not simply wait until I got sick or injured to buy the insurance? If auto insurance were purchasable once one got into an accident, why would anyone purchase auto insurance before an accident? Will the Democrats next demand that life insurance companies sell life insurance to the terminally ill? The whole point of insurance is that the healthy buy it and thereby provide the funds to pay for the sick. Demanding that insurance companies provide insurance to everyone at any time spells the end of the concept of insurance. And if the answer is that the government will now make it illegal not to buy insurance, how will that be enforced? How will the government check on 300 million people?

3. Why do supporters of nationalized medicine so often substitute the word "care" for the word "insurance?" it is patently untrue that millions of Americans do not receive health care. Millions of Americans do not have health insurance but virtually every American (and non-American on American soil) receives health care.

4. No one denies that in order to come close to staying within its budget health care will be rationed. But what is the moral justification of having the state decide what medical care to ration?

5. According to Dr. David Gratzer, health care specialist at the Manhattan Institute, "While 20 years ago pharmaceuticals were largely developed in Europe, European price controls made drug development an American enterprise. Fifteen of the 20 top-selling drugs worldwide this year were birthed in the United States." Given how many lives -- in America and throughout the world – American pharmaceutical companies save, and given how expensive it is to develop any new drug, will the price controls on drugs envisaged in the Democrats' bill improve or impair Americans' health?

6. Do you really believe that private insurance could survive a "public option"? Or is this really a cover for the ideal of single-payer medical care? How could a private insurance company survive a "public option" given that private companies have to show a profit and government agencies do not have to – and given that a private enterprise must raise its own money to be solvent and a government option has access to others' money -- i.e., taxes?

7. Why will hospitals, doctors, and pharmaceutical companies do nearly as superb a job as they now do if their reimbursement from the government will be severely cut? Haven't the laws of human behavior and common sense been repealed here in arguing that while doctors, hospitals and drug companies will make significantly less money they will continue to provide the same level of uniquely excellent care?

8. Given how many needless procedures are ordered to avoid medical lawsuits and how much money doctors spend on medical malpractice insurance, shouldn't any meaningful "reform" of health care provide some remedy for frivolous malpractice lawsuits?

9. Given how weak the U.S. economy is, given how weak the U.S. dollar is, and given how much in debt the U.S. is in, why would anyone seek to have the U.S. spend another trillion dollars? Even if all the other questions here had legitimate answers, wouldn't the state of the U.S. economy alone argue against national health care at this time?

10. Contrary to the assertion of President Obama -- "we spend much more on health care than any other nation but aren't any healthier for it" -- we are healthier. We wait far less time for procedures and surgeries. Our life expectancy with virtually any

Anonymous2009-07-28T18:33:23Z

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My reason for hating the healthNOTcare

President Obama suggested at a town hall event Wednesday night that one way to shave medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die and don't stand to gain from the extra care.

Read that again. Obama was subtly promoting euthanasia...

In a nationally televised event at the White House, Obama said families need better information so they don't unthinkingly approve "additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care."

He added: "Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.


Or maybe, President Obama, the decision should be left to the patient and patient's family?

Havasoo2009-07-28T19:15:19Z

You can rant with the best of them, but I will comment on your #2.

Not everyone with a pre-existing condition "waited until they were sick to look for insurance". Many people have had insurance coverage and then for a million different reasons, lose that coverage. What was once covered is no longer covered, and you cannot get new insurance with certain conditions that you had before. Group insurance from an employer is about the only way to be assured of insurance coverage. But if you are unable to work due to your pre-existing condition, or you are in the gap between middle age and retirement, you will not be able to find other insurance to care for yourself. I am speaking from my husband's experience and know first hand how difficult and depressing it is when you know that you have no where to turn for medical care.

So I agree with our President, that everyone should be able to get health care regardless of their situation. There should be an option for everyone. The conservative scare tactics are out in force again, but hopefully some sort of compromise solution can be achieved.

Rant on!

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How can one federal law constitute nationalizing a private health care system? The only way to get insurance companies to stop refusing to insure people and lower prices was by a government mandate to insure everyone in return for ending the discrimination in insurance. A federal law does not mean the federal government is taking over the whole private health care system. It is a law. Health insurance is under the jurisdiction of each state with an insurance commission. Thats why insurance cannot be used in another state. There cannot be oversight or standard pricing.

rambo2009-07-28T18:34:45Z

Obama is too bull headed to be transparent and offer bipartisanship.

Obama has an agenda that is not in the best interest of Americans.

I want the best of both worlds, the Best Quality of Healthcare Services for an Affordable Healthcare Cost.

It doesn’t take a lot of Common Sense to realize Obama’s Healthcare Plan will not provide the Best Quality of Healthcare Services for an Affordable Healthcare Cost.

You can’t make Healthcare Professionals work for less money in a Democracy. The good Healthcare Professionals will seek professions that will pay them what they were making and we will be left with Substandard Healthcare Services.

Before we can merge the present Healthcare System with a new Healthcare System you have to fix the present Healthcare System first.

Healthcare Services are too High.

Healthcare Insurance is too High.

Prescription Drugs are too High!

Rewards for Malpractice Law Suites are to High!

Welfare Fraud is out of control!

Taxes are too High.

Fix the aforementioned and we may not need to have a Universal Healthcare Plan.

As things stand the proposed Universal Healthcare Plan will just complicate things more and drive up the costs more.

If that isn't good enough why not take the Healthcare Plan we the people provide an undeserving Congress and expand it to apply to the citizens as well, aren't we good enough?

Semper Fi

volleyballchick (cowards block)2009-07-28T18:41:19Z

And one question for opponents:

If it is good enough for our nation's veterans, then why isn't it good enough for the masses?

When it was suggested to privatize veteran's health care, people were OUTRAGED. They were screaming how Un American it was to do that to those that fought and died for our nation. So we give them "socialized medicine". And then when it is suggested to offer an affordable option that is funded by the government that would compete with private health insurance, these very same people begin screaming "socialized medicine! Not for me!" So answer the question - don't tell me how much it sucks. I've seen and heard the stories, not to mention know a few veterans that deal with it daily. But you don't take up and want privatizing of veteran's health care. Why is it so wonderful for them - those we are supposedly thanking for our rights and freedoms - and yet you wouldn't dare allow your family to suffer such indignity and be forced to use government medical care? Why is that?

I have yet to see anyone address the question directly and answer it - they just tell me how rotten it is. But yet no one wants it privatized, which, according to those that are against President Obama's plan, is so much better and the care is of such better quality. So either you don't respect our nation's veterans enough to offer them the best quality health care possible or you are making money off of the private insurance gig, and want to keep the dollars rolling in.

And the argument of a bureaucrat standing in between you and your doctor is poppycock! Right now, I have a friend that works for Sentry Insurance, and it is her job to deny or approve requests for medical procedures. It is vastly interesting to hear her talk about how she is "forced" (her words - not mine) to look at the bottom line by her employer, and if something is too expensive, she is to deny it based on a decision in accordance to the health insurance policy the holder has. So don't give me that - it is happening RIGHT NOW.

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