as some one who appreciates wrestlers and BJJ specialists i actually enjoyed the fight with roy and completely agree with the stoppage. i have noticed though that a lot of people are ragging on roy for exploiting a "loophole". let me ask all of u this. if roy went out and threw bombs and got K.Oed that would have been dumb, if roy teed off on kimbos head and broke his hand he would have been dumb. so because he did the right thing preserved himself in the fight and still dominated kimbo he did something wrong?
i don't understand maybe some one can explain it to me
2009-10-01T21:11:44Z
the crucifix position is one of the hardest postions to atain on any one so you obviously have little knowledge of what it takes to hold some one kimbos size like that.
2009-10-01T21:12:42Z
its not about damage its about neutralizing some one. thats whats wrong with new fans of mma. the point of a fight isnt always to kill the other guy. and as for that not being roys plan, he stated that it was his plan, get out of the first fight and be able to keep fighting. he did just that.
I don't have so much of a problem with the fight as I do with the way he acted afterward. He took down a guy with zero ground game and put him in a position where he couldn't do much damage even if he did throw harder punches. It was a boring fight, but I understand a win is a win.
Nevertheless, he got up and called himself the king. The king? Once Kimbo shook off the rust, he was whoopin Roy's *** on their feet. And Nelson is far more experienced than Kimbo. So take the win, but don't strut like you dominated. You did enough not to get knocked out and get a weak stoppage.
The ref should have stood them up, not stopped the fight. Roy was doing NO damage with his punches. He was hitting Kimbo in the forehead - the hardest part of your head - and he had no power from his position. I don't believe he was trying to avoid a hand injury. I think he was punching as hard as he could using only his arm from an awkward position.
I respect Roy, and although I voiced my support for Kimbo, I always knew subconciously that Roy was going to win. But it was his methods that made me rage.
He was literally trying to suffocate Kimbo with his stomach. I truly believe this was on purpose, and it becomes evident near the end of round one. He's using the fact he's the size of a mini-whale to his advantage.
As much as I want kimbo to win, he won't. But you put Roy in the ring with ANYONE with good ground game, and his fat *** is beat. I'm wanting a Roy vs Wes fight too.
I thought it was kind of a ***** move to tell all his teammates to start counting off all of his "punches" in advance to make the ref see what a good job he was doing. Seriously, who the hell does that?
Second, Kimbo has literally no ground game. In his training sessions, his opponent would just let him get up from his guard. Guess what? In a fight they don't just let you get up, they mount you, flatten your *** out and try to end you (except Roy, who was content to play patty cake with Kimbo's head).
(Edit) Also, when Roy got the mount position in round 1 he didn't try ANY ground and pound. Rad is right, he just tried to suffocate Kimbo with his blubber.