How many lives could have been saved?

How many lives could have been saved if we would have used even a portion of the $75 billion that has been used trying to prove AGW, to provide clean drinking water to poor nations?

Over $75 billion has been spent in an attempt to prove global warming is man's fault. To date, no scientific research has been able to pin the change in temp (whether up or down) to human activity (and this includes trying to intentionally fabricate reports). Imagine if even a portion of this money went instead to provide clean drinking water for the poorer nations? Millions could be saved next year alone, and every year after that. But instead, rich nations continue to pour money into "science" in an effort to prove man is evil and bad for the planet.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091119/ap_on_re_as/as_world_s_children_forgotten_killers

2009-11-20T07:02:51Z

Lord Percy,
get your facts straight. The number is $75 BILLION spent not million.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=104031&cat=12

http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/07/79-billion-spent-and-counting-still-no-proof-of-agw/

Please do your research before saying something so I do not have to waste my time trying to educate you.

As for AGW, again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Consensus is not science. never use this as an argument for or against a scientific theory. Second, there is no consensus.
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?id=50
http://www.dailytech.com/Myth+of+Consensus+Explodes+APS+Opens+Global+Warming+Debate/article12403.htm
And I could provide hundreds more but running out of space.

My point, before answering, do the research. here are some topics for you.
Hockey Stick Debate
Sea Level rise
Ice melting
And do not use any main stream media sources, as they are worthless.

2009-11-20T07:07:36Z

Lothringer,
A military has a use. It protects the citizens of the country from annialation. But that is not the issue, so forget the argument.

yes, science is very important. Otherwise, we would still be in caves. But chasing a theory because you want it to be true is idiocy. The theory may not be disproved, but it has enough doubt that we should stop wasting money on it.

Not a single life can be attributed to AGW. The world has always had droughts and floods. Even the hurricane levels are low now compared to historical. We can save MILLIONS next year and absolutely know we saved these children and people, or, we can keep pretending the world is going to end and waste more money trying desperately to prove it.

BTW, the world has been warmer than now, and the population expanded and humans prospered during it.

2009-11-20T07:08:29Z

Andy,
You have a point, but this is not the time or place to debate it.

2009-11-20T07:09:33Z

James,
Sorry, but again, that is another topic.

2009-11-20T07:40:44Z

Many of you have pointed out the $75 BILLION is just from US spending. You are correct. You are also correct that this is only the direct cost. I have not looked at the indirect cost.

nor have I looked at the cost in lives from such idiotic policies as using our food for fuel. These topics are for another post as we could go on forever.

2009-11-20T10:04:50Z

Pegminer,
No one would say studying the environment is worthless. But come on, look at some actual data once in a while. Compare how much was spent on climate research 30 years ago to now. The amount being thrown at AGW is staggering. If you had studied economics, then you would know that when resources are used for something, something else gets less resources. I am not saying the money would have been used to actually save people, but one can imagine how many people could have been helped if a portion of this money had been used to actually help people.

Anonymous2009-11-20T06:56:45Z

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Sorry but it was closer to 20 times that much money that was stripped out of the space program budget and vanished into the Rockefeller estate when Jimmy Carter cut back all the major functional potions of the space program that was going to build a major solar power system in space to provide more than 80% of the entire planets electricity from space by 1995. Also on the program were agricultural satellites and residential satellites and manufacturing facilities with mining on the moon. All the money for these programs has still been collected in taxes for the last 30 years so the real question is just what did Carter do with the money. It seems very likely that things were structured to feed the money to Rockefeller and himself and that is why he always acts as if he has a guilty conscience because he does from killing the space based satellite power program and stealing the money to build it.

Some scientific information revealing the truth about global warming, when it happened and what probably caused it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:0Master_Past_20000yrs_temperatures_icecore_Vostok_150dpi.png
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global_warming.html
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
http://reasonmclucus.tripod.com/CO2myth.html
http://mc-computing.com/qs/Global_Warming/Atmospheric_Analysis.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
Where the heat came from and why it was abnormally cold previously
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/215.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

andy2009-11-20T06:49:20Z

How about this, why don't the poorer Nations try to help themselves first. Why does the developed Nations who have tried in certain African Nations to better the people get thrown out and now it's our fault? Also, there is a huge catch 22, some of these areas are over populated based on the farming techniques in the area. What I would love to see is that the billions already being pumped into these areas be used to change the culture so that they become self-sufficient instead of the Developed World keep feeding them every day.

Ottawa Mike2009-11-20T07:35:22Z

Every once and awhile I will ask a question here only come back and read the answers and mutter "Wow, how do people come up with this stuff?" Sometimes it's off topic, sometimes it's irrational, sometimes they just don't believe facts, whatever. This is probably one of those times for you.

As for $75 billion spent on climate science (and I believe that's only for the US), it is indeed an obscene sum. And that's just to convince people to accept bad policies which are going to cost trillions and kill lots of people not to mention the people already dying for other reasons as you pointed out.

Anonymous2009-11-20T07:43:48Z

I'd wager that it's even more.

Look at all the trillions wasted on finding alternatives for oil for the last 50 years. All the millions wasted on windmills and solar when they can't even provide 1% of our energy needs.

"Environmentalism" has cost millions of lives since it was taken over by a bunch of socialist fascists. DDT was banned for no reason, causing millions to die every year from malaria.

Once you realize that this is not about "saving the planet" or "helping the environment" or even "saving the whales" and other animals, you begin to see just how insidious the whole agenda is. How it is geared to drain our economy and put shackles on us to prevent freedom.

We need to wake up and push back on this nonsense. Unfortunately that's quite a task since there are billions behind the agenda and they continue to take our tax money to fund their wants.

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