Do you agree that, Understanding others through our own character defects, is how we gain compassion?

Thoughts?

2009-12-18T17:33:49Z

The statement means, that if one must just it should be through themselves -- that is you should use yourself as the filter of your judgments. It's the ol' speak and beam in ones eye.

Compassion is born in a person when they first gain it within themselves. Then one can be compassionate towards others, since they know their struggles as they have had them.

2009-12-18T18:22:14Z

Yo D, the feeling of compassion for another, whether you have experienced what they have or not, is first had from within yourself. Genuine compassion is a function, where one reaches out to another, due to what exist within themselves. We, in this world, are all integral parts of one another -- you are within me, I within you. I can surely know your pain, if I connect to this part within myself. Where they are, you have been. Where you are, they may be. We suffer from the same problems, while each has different developments, we have the same "natures" in structure -- in the same way that we have the same organs. If a person feels pain in a certain part of their body and they tell you, you may even feel it in yours, because that organ that they have exist in you as well.

2009-12-18T18:23:33Z

Character defects is a certain type of suffering. The point is perceiving others struggle through our owns. That is, without become stuck on semantics, the essence of what it means.

2009-12-18T18:26:22Z

Thank you Yo D, for moving me to elucidate that saying even further.

2009-12-18T18:39:03Z

Happy there are 2 types of egotism. The egotism which swallows up the whole of your being and the one which develops your being. Everything in life is a catalyst for your growth, it all has a relation within you -- what is without is within as well. The first egotism, however, is the improper identification which destroys all possibilities of growth.

2009-12-18T18:40:44Z

This has shades of Solipsism. There are things out there, but we do not see things as they truly are -- not objectively. Every judgment a person has is by themselves, just not in the right way. People judge according to their experience. But never do they put themselves on the level of those around them, to judge others not as though they are above them. You have screwed up so have I. Think of it this way, if someone did a wrong, would you really be in the position to judge them, when you do similar, or have done wrong yourself that you attempt to make less or justify as being right/ If one is honest with themselves, gaining compassion on those parts of themselves which cause him/her to err, they can work at it. And perhaps, they won't be so quick to judge a person so negatively -- but judge them by their own struggles. This is a level of being where one "understands another"

ra†ia2009-12-18T20:59:12Z

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i think that compassion is learned from someone who has compassion.

"You must find a wise man with God’s qualities and learn from him."
http://www.bmf.org/wisdom/insan.html

good luck...
having compassion is a very noble quality.

xx

Yo D2009-12-18T18:06:32Z

That may be how we gain empathy or sympathy, but compassion, I believe, comes from another place. For instance, I can't think of what character defect would cause me to feel compassion for a starving child in Africa.

From my experience, I may feel compassion for one thing and you another. But is as thought God (or evolution, if you prefer) has programmed each of us to feel a certain way about certain things. Some people love animals with all of their hearts--would literally die to save an animals life. Others feel deep compassion for children in peril. It is my thinking that God/evolution has outfitted each human with a unique "compassion button" that, when triggered, will cause you to act in a way you would not normally act--all in order to help the situation. It may be nothing more than pray, or put some money in a Salvation Army pot, but it is doing something you might nor normally do.

Now, why do each of us have a unique button? Perhaps for the same reason that some animals like bugs, and some like leaves. You are part of an "ecosystem" (so to speak). Your job is, when something in that system is in trouble, to feel a certain way and respond.

If you act on the compassion you feel, and I act on the compassion I feel, then, together, perhaps all the things that need to be done will be done.

strpenta2009-12-20T07:32:15Z

That's one way...still, others tend to 'feel' more compassionate than others,
Compassion comes from a variety of things...how much emotion a person experiences, how much knowledge they have about their own strengths/flaws, how much a person knows about the subject at hand

Anonymous2009-12-18T18:33:34Z

I do that because I am a narcissist. Is everybody a narcissist? Is egotism the only way humans develop compassion? I hope not.

Clint2009-12-18T17:49:19Z

I think it is a way to better appreciate the experiences and chooses of others, but I have experienced compassion without relating to the experience. "Aware" is a good word for it, Cosmic.

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