If we don't have our own system won't we be enslaved by others systems?

If we don't have our own system won't we be enslaved by others systems?

As we move through time and space with these wonderful physical bodies, the vehicles of Consciousness we experience the beauty of reality, of life as truth in each moment, eternally materializing. Knowing the beauty of a flower, the caress of the breeze upon our skin and the smell, taste and voice of our lover. This "system" is our spiritual path and it doesn't rely on beliefs but is direct knowing by and through our senses is in fact making love or "making sense" of life in each moment.

Oh Kali, Sweet surrender! Stop the War! I don't want to go the Undertaker! Can you hear this Babygirl's cry? STOP, LISTEN to this itty biddie girl, can we just for this now moment! Who can we stop to listen? Does anyone want to hear? Everybody is so caught up in Systems. Listen to the sounds of your heartbeats people! We do need these senses to "Make Sense". Great ideas make sense! How we need messages reminding us of love and nature, those birds and bees, singing and buzzin', life rockin and rollin', energies dancing to the beat of forgotten rythmns, sounds, tastes, callings. Hearts jiving to the sweet beats of life! Do we ever need those river beds of life to leave the pain behind! Dead men walking looking for the rain! Desperate to stop and desperate to drink from high rivers of life! Despite our best efforts, we can’t set ourselves free until we write our own systems . This is totally about God and worship! I have been out on the desert on a horse with no name! And as I surrender “systems’ to the place where the healing path leads I am taken away from the labyrinth of darkness! The more I do so the more I catch colur filled rainbows, those wondrous colours glimmering of hope! Promises we all thought were just around the bend, can be ours now, in the now. WE don't have to wait for some distant future! WE must embrace these moments for we may not have more! As I embrace these truths in the rawest parts of myself, I realize that I have been truly lost in other systems for far too long! I am seeing infinite compassions . bounties of love and life, greeting me each day as I dare to taste lifes banquet ~ full of abundant joys! As I see it, the baggage of various systems stops Consciouness from happening! This luggage placed upon me has indeed been backbreaking. No wonder, we feel crippled and lost as we journey looking for treasures! We have so much equipment loaded on us , we will never make it to the bend, let alone around it! Let's unload! Ligthen up and dance to the songs and calls of life as we write our own systmes of the music sheets of our lives! We can dare to change the script! (LOVE THIS !!!!!!! ) Time to loose those chains! Let's enjoy the breakdance experience! Break out and through! As I step onto the healing paths which gloriously have been rolled out for me I discover I am experiencing the light of these rainbows! The emptiness of the isolation found in systems is unending! . I am propelled to seek my path in the light of this time! I know surrendering the imperfections of systems gone bad is freeing me! I can sing with those birds, fly higher, catch those rainbows , feel those loves, hear voices, dance to new tunes and dance well. I am the flower so needing the rain! Binding fears drop off as chains hitting cement floors. Ker plunking sounds….gone becoming silenced because of newness formed within me! New systems being created, strengthening themselves with determination of flight! Yes I see a clear path before me. One that has less landmines, less slavery, with promises of ultimate values ! God, life, it’s wonders and passions…so much has been hidden from us in those libraries of partial knowledge! This is a crossroad and crucial time for me, so important in determining what is real and what is not real! Merging the truths that be, holding dear and close those truths which cause new life to burst, amplifying glorious life! Kinda like holding the Megaphone of Life in my hands! Seeing this radiance as I walk upon the healing path of God’s infinite ways! How sad that man finds himself to be the Horse with no Name! To not realize he needed the rain! His wonderful rain! There is so much truth in “makin’ sense!” It is a time to change gears and not stay stuck in reverse…we were created to love and be loved….we can say with passion…”Hello Love” to the flowers, feel the caresses of those breezes, love the sounds and tastes of all that life has to offer, from our beloveds to children, we can dare to love and feel these senses and go barefoot in the park too! When we begin to surrender "systems" we aren't as enslaved by them our bodies do move easier with new freedoms, more energy in our walk, more esteem too! As we walk our stye we begin to shine with brillance too.

The first time I heard these songs I felt as though they had my name stamped on them! "Horse with no name" and "Ineed You!" became MY songs! I have a newfound beauty in the song "I need YOU" More so now than me as a blue-eyed girl of twenty who first fell in love with them!

The journey mankind is on, is represented by Horse with no name, what he lost is spoken of in " I Need You", in these two songs if He dares to love, he can be reconnected, plugged in and hot to go! lol...go figure... my songs, my journey! Very good question! Sayeth the freed slave! :))) Truth and grace walking hand in hand! I am going to enjoy life more! Ker- Plunk! LOL!

(Sad to see ridicule and this war going on in people hey Kal! against a message not heard)

I like your question - it is extremely interesting. I like Blake's quote - that he must create. I write poetry and I always think of my poems as my creations. I think when Blake wrote "I will not Reason and Compare; my business is to Create", he is just saying that he will create something new according to his views and not think about how it fits in with any other systems. He is just going his own way - to the beat of a different drum. I also like Hermann Hesse's quote - that we have the real world inside us - actually in Judaism - each human life is considered a separate world - that is why there is the quote that if you save a life (human being) it is the same as saving the world. I think these are valuable insights and quotes and I have no problem incorporating them into my thinking. The best thing anyone can do is keep an open mind and learn - life is a journey and learning is the main component.

If we were all the same, wouldn't that suck? Yup...

If everything was entirely one system, then where does free will come in? I know the world could be better, I think if everyone had enough to survive and there were none who had more than others, it would be better. We would need incorruptible leaders and powers, though who would strive for the best for everybody and respect everyone equally and everyone would be treated the same also, and I think it would help if people were more social also, and were not deceived into going to war, driking flouride in their water, etc.

Why do you need to reduce the universe and nature to a "system"? When was the last time you heard of a "system" that worked consistently over centuries? The universe is not a "system"; it is much more. Your words and concepts make everything seem so small.

Beautiful words; but what truth are in them?

They failed to provide recognition for the design and creation of all things under the Will of our Creator, with a Name, a Will, a Mandate and a Kingdom under His Son. They are only poetry, philosophy, something we make with the power of our mind invested by Him.

what is consciousness? Does time really flow? The equations of Newton, Maxwell and Einstein essentially treat time symmetrically, and maybe implies entropy increases toward the past aswell as the future? In our own temporal existence, what defines the concept of NOW? Our 'nows' can be radically different from those of distant observers

see? I can BS too

One does not accumulate but eliminate. It is not daily increase but daily decrease. The height of cultivation always runs to simplicity.

Before I studied the art, a punch to me was just like a punch, a kick just like a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick no longer a kick. Now that I've understood the art, a punch is just like a punch, a kick just like a kick. The height of cultivation is really nothing special. It is merely simplicity; the ability to express the utmost with the minimum. It is the halfway cultivation that leads to ornamentation

- Bruce Lee

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Yes, but we are all of us "conditioned" by whatever moral code is programmed into us as we grow, whether through religion, parents,or environment. Even the perception you describe is a result of a particular kind of conditioning. ANY interpretation of reality comes from a kind of conditioning and that conditioning in ACT is our religion- or our "spirituality".

So, in fact if we are not a slave to our own conditioning we are a slave to another's. I would guess that for most it is both.

Your questioned conclusion is not Truth....it is not inevitable....although it might often occur it is not a Law...The beautiful flower Zen may be said to systematically de-systemize.....however the System of the Universe is as it is.....whether we espouse it or not....or ignore it....or rebel against it....forget it....forsake it....overlook it....deny it....it just "Is".....There are many spiritual Systems that seek to teach us of the System of the Universe....most fall short....and though there are many which do enslave their followers, lack of a system of ones own does not doom one to enslavement by another.....For me....there are some noteworthy times when I let the sweet flower of Zen bloom within me and with childish glee and abandon, I venture out system-less and slowly a knowledge and wisdom from deep inside myself bubbles out......for you see.....the Universe is inside me...

You're enslaved by the sense system. Human beings have higher reasoning functions. Follow the dialectic.

Tell me... is this just another system... or is it something else...? ;-)

Basically, the psyche is a manifestation of pure energy in a particular form. It is very difficult to consider its experience outside of the framework familiar to you. As you demand a certain preciseness of definition and terminology, and that vocabulary automatically structures the information. The psyche is a conglomeration of energy gestalts. To understand that, you must realize that pure energy has such transforming pattern-forming propensities that is always appears as its manifestations. It becomes its "camouflages."

It may form particles, but it would be itself whether or not particles existed. In the most basic of terms, almost incomprehensible in your vocabulary, energy is not divided. there can be no portions or parts of it, because it is not an entity like a pie, to be cut or divided. Yet, for purposes of discussion, we must say that in your terms each smallest portion -- each smallest unit of pure energy -- contains within it the propelling force toward the formation of all possible variations of itself.

The smallest unit of pure energy, therefore, weighing nothing in your terms, containing within itself no mass, would hold within its own nature the propensity for the creation of matter in all of its forms, the impetus to create all possible universes. In those terms, energy cannot be considered without bringing to the forefront questions concerning the nature of God or All That Is, for the terms are synonymous.

I can say precisely that pure energy is everywhere within itself conscious, but the very words themselves somewhat distort my meaning, for I am speaking of a consciousness most difficult to describe.

Pure energy, or any "portion" of it, contains within itself the creative propensity toward individuation, so that within any given portion all individually conscious life is implied, created, and sustained. Pure energy cannot be destroyed, and is "at every point" simultaneously being created. Your physical universe and laws give you little evidence of this kind of activity, for at that level the evidence shows you the appearance of time and/or decay. You own psychological activity is the closest evidence you have, though you do not use it as such. Pure energy has no beginning or end. The psyche, your psyche, is being freshly created "at every point" of its existence. For that matter, despite all appearances , the physical universe was not born through some explosion of energy which is being dispersed, but is everywhere being created at all of its points "at each moment."

~Seth

from The Nature of the Psyche;

Chapter 9: Characteristics of Pure Energy, the Energetic Psyche, and the Birth of Events.