Acording to Jews how will Messiah look like and when he will come ?
I understand that Jews wait for Messiah so my question is: is it written somewhere how he will look like and what he will be like.
Would he be some one like Chrisitan Messiah (merciful , full of compassion and love) or maybe he will be the one who will punish people for their sins.
What will be his mission on Earth is it written when he would come ?
Will he be only for Jews ?
2010-02-02T12:38:57Z
@Fireball
Hold on Fireball. I'm talking about Jewish tradition and since Jews don't believe devil exists how can it fight with Messiah ?
Emuna bi'Hashem2010-02-02T13:30:48Z
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The Jewish position is exactly the kind of position Rivky has posted and yasher koach to her on some of her posting but not all and I will comment on just one of her topics.
I disagree with the commentary she makes of the 2 types of concepts between Moshiach. Moshiach ben Yosef and Moshiach ben David according to it's illustration does not mean that it will happen back to back it can give that impression but does not necessarily mean that it will be so.
I agree that Moshiach ben Yosef's death happens because of a battle but the battle you are implying is not at all what you think it is. This battle is in the realm of spirituality and it's against the forces of evil vs. good.
This is the concept Yeshua's emissaries were trying to instruct us towards and illustrating that the Moshiach ben David is actually him as well and that the concept of him coming will precede his Resurrection yes! But does not tell us when he will come which means it will be in an appointed time when G-d says it is. The hint of his coming is given by the prophet named Joel
Joel the prophet makes Reference towards Moshiach ben Davids coming which will be accompanied by the nations coming near to the Holy city in order to destroy us then and only then will Moshiach appear.
1.The Messiah will come to rule the whole world with righteousness & justice. 2. He will rule from the Holy Temple In Jerusalem. 3. This Temple is The Holy Temple Of G-d, who has said: My house shall be a house of prayer for all nations. 4. The Messiah will also be the Kohen hagadol but not according to Aharon's order but Melketzedek king of salem. 5. Messiah is a man and is not G-d because G-d has no form.
Edit@ IRome -- to state that, yes! It would mean apostacy by the unbelieving Jews though, not by G-d. And even if we were excommunicated by Jews because of it, as it has been done countless times before or killed for that matter, we will still rise again one day in honor. Just as Yeshua hamoshiach has risen from death to life so will we be risen from death unto life by that same source which raised Moshiach.
Edit @ Rivky---I also believe that to be true, as the Oral Torah teaches. There is a [but] though. While there exists a direct link to his lineage from Aaron back to Melketzedek visa v, we know that Avraham all the way unto Aaron are of b'nei bris but Melketzedek was not and eventhough he was not, it does teach us something very interesting here, it teaches us that a b'nei Noach can reach an even higher level of kedusha than that of a Jew because who is the greater one here, the one recieving the blessings or the one giving it?
However, here we see Melketzedek blessing Avraham and we would think that it should be the other way around but no, the greater always blesses the lesser and in this passuk the Torah teaches us that Melkitzedek was greater then even Avraham, which also teaches us another interesting thing that Moshiach's preisthood will be on an even higher level of spirituality than that of Moses and Aaron.
Now, I don't know about you but to me this is a very interesting subject and one that {I think} needs further consideration by those majority. Since you say: you think that it is a very minority who believes that the Moshiach will be a Kohen.
Edit #2 to Rivky-- Well....ok, I take back the comment I made that it was Avraham you're right, the correct name at the time was Avram and thank you for correcting me on that but that still does not invalidate my argument. Melketzedek was in a much higher level at the time when he blessed Avram.
Hypatheticaly speaking if he would have continued on living till the giving of the Torah whose to say he would have been even greater in kedusha then Avraham or even Moishe? I am only trying to spark up a diologue with you in order to expand and contract ideas in order to learn from you. So don't take it the wrong way. Again, it's just a hypathetical question and it's the way I learn from others.
Now, if I am incorrect in this analitics I apologize but as I see it, Melketzedek is an important figure in Moshiach. To have the Tanakh make such a statement saying: " He shall be a high priest forever after the order of Melketzedek" is very intreging to me.
Why would the Tanakh comment in such a way if he is not more important than Moishe rabbeinu or Aaron for such a task, of being the high priest? Shouldn't have the Torah given importance or presedence to Moishe or Aaron by stating after the order of Moishe or Aaron, but no! The Torah seems to give the impression which elevates Melketzedek to a more honorable or loftier level then they by stating so in the manner it has illustrated it.
There was a time in which the Jews were looking for THE Messiah (No, I am NOT saying that they think the Messiah is Jesus) - but they were looking for a single individual who would be THE Messiah.
Modern Jews consider that there isn't an individual person who will be the Messiah, but in every age, in every generation, a messiah arises to help the Jewish people in their time of need and distress.
The Jews believe that the Jewish Messiah is for the Jews, not for the world, and currently they are looking for someone who will rebuild the temple for them (i.e. grant them the permission and power to do so, not to literally do the actual work for them).
The concept is that this messiah will satisfy the immediate crisis, and then in the future, the next major crisis will bring about another messiah.
The other interesting belief among the most orthodox Jews is that he will come immediately if every single Jew will observe the Sabbath for three Sabbaths in a row, showing that they are worthy of the messiah to come; OR if every single Jew does NOT observe the Sabbath for three Sabbaths in a row, showing that they are in desperate need of the messiah. The religious Jews will NOT forsake the Sabbath, and many non-religious Jews will not observe the Sabbath, so it's kind of like a "stale mate", and they just have to wait until this generation's messiah comes of his own accord.
(from the Heb. mashi'aḥ, "anointed"). The savior and redeemer at the End of Days. First encountered in Leviticus 4:3-5 as the "anointed priest," the term was originally used for anyone with a Divine mission, such as Priests, Prophets, and kings---even Cyrus of Persia, who was seen as fulfilling a Divine mission (Isa. 45:1). After the promise made to David (II Sam. 7:12-13), the Davidic dynasty was regarded as specially chosen (II Sam. 22:51; Ps. 89:35), and later, when the kingdom was threatened by external powers, Isaiah and Jeremiah prophesied the appearance of a king of the house of David, whose rule would be glorious. In the First Temple period, Judaism was not a messianic religion and the term mashi'aḥ did not have its later connotation. The concept gained strengthen from the time of the Babylonian Exile, when the idea became associated with the "end of days."
"Would he be some one like Chrisitan Messiah (merciful , full of compassion and love) or maybe he will be the one who will punish people for their sins."
Isn't that contradictory? The Christian Messiah also intends to punish people, according to Christians. To answer your question, it is written somewhere although I cannot tell you where. The reason the Jews did not follow Jesus is because he did not fully fulfill the prophecy.