OMG! Can you please give your views on this?

I just read this article about " tight pants ban" and it has stirred a few questions in my mind. Please give your opinions.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100527/ap_on_re_as/as_indonesia_no_tight_pants_2

1 What is the difference in " Burqa Ban" and this.
2 This only applies to " Muslims" but they ask others to respect it. Do you think this will inspire some women to just stop wearing hijab?
3 Dose anyone agree this is just too much?
4 Are other Muslimah's as tired as I am over all the drama about our clothes?

Of course I saved the best for last....

"Aceh, a semi autonomous region, made news last year when its provincial parliament passed an Islamic, or Shariah, law making adultery punishable by stoning to death. It also has imposed prison sentences and public lashings for homosexuals and pedophiles."


A "pedophile" receives lashings and prison sentence. Not! Stoning? Even the worst of criminals in prison don't accept pedophiles. I won't even mention the ( buffet ) homosexual part...

Do you agree this is completely backwards or is it just me?

2010-05-30T06:06:40Z

Think Tanker.... Very simply Islam is Submission not force. Debate all you want but force only leads to rebellion. That is common sense. I don't believe my faith was part of the question.

Kells... did you notice this part......."I am not wearing sexy outfits, but they caught me like a terrorist only because of my jeans," said Imma, a 40-year-old housewife who uses only one name. She argued that wearing jeans is more comfortable when she travels by motorbike."

NOT wearing sexy outfits...

Be Good........ You seem to be mistaken. Unlike many here, I do NOT claim any sect. I submitt to Allah only and obey ALL of His Prophets. Call it what you want but I know what I am.

2010-05-30T06:45:36Z

Be Good... Please explain this ayah...2:136 Say ye: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God (in Islam)."

2010-05-30T06:45:41Z

Be Good... Please explain this ayah...2:136 Say ye: "We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to God (in Islam)."

2010-05-30T07:07:55Z

Think Tanker.... In religion we all have the freedom of choice. Not from East West North or South governments but from Allah.

11:18 If thy Lord had so willed, He could have made mankind one people: but they will not cease to dispute.

2010-05-30T13:50:14Z

Ahmed.... Hold on to your desk Brother, This may come as a shock to you, But I am a Muslim too. I just have my own mind and I do believe in freedom not because I am American... but because it is my right as a human.

Be Good... Once again.... I am not a Koranist or a Submitter. I have no idea why you have this notion that I do not obey the Prophet Muhammad...

Shah2010-05-30T06:57:45Z

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Basically banning of specific clothing or forcing a clothing code on public **CANNOT** be done in the name of God. God has not decreed it as a law. God has ONLY advised it and prescribed it for the **Obedient and righteous** believers. And its observation is by choice NOT by law.

A country can force a dress / dress code, based on its **OWN** laws. But forcing something in the name of God, which God has not sanctioned as a law, is blasphemy. It is like blaming it on God, for something that HE has **NOT** sanctioned as a law. It is a hideous crime !.

But you and I cannot possibly change the majority !

I know how sick it feels to be in such a society and such people.

Anonymous2010-05-30T12:52:12Z

Muslim is the best religion but the people in the middle eastern and others like Indonesia who use the religion as an excuse for their behaviors are sick people. Any religion is suppose to be of PEACE & HARMONY. No one is suppose to take God's works into their own hands. No one should get stoned to death and no one should be put to death either. People who use the Muslim religion to say ALLAH is the reason why they do what they do are a bunch of nut jobs. These people should be locked up and never see the light of day. No one should blow themselves up so they can go to heaven or do stupid sh*t like they did on 9/11. I just hate people who are violent. YES HATE!! Strong word but it must be said.

As far as the women who wear the clothes to cover themselves up .....I feel sorry for them. It has been passed down from generation to generation like all lies have and it still continues and still will continue as long as the lie is implanted in the little minds of children. Allah is too powerful, to intelligent to have such demands on people. It's all a bunch of non-sense. But within due time all people in the Muslim world will change and realize that they have been wearing these retarded clothes and looking like fools but unfortunately it will not happen for many years to come. It's hard to undue stupid you know?

Think Tanker2010-05-30T12:42:27Z

1. West in general believes in "Freedom" and Islam is all about submission. By banning Burqa west clearly shows double standard. They are going exactly against one of the basic principle of their civilization on which they are proud of. Islam, on the other hand does not preach freedom. Here submission of Islam is manifested in the form of such restrictions. So, Islam is going as per their proclaimed principle and west going AGAINST their proclaimed principle.
Such ban in Indonesia shows their faith and Burqa ban in the west shows their hypocrisy.

2. Why would woman stop wearing hijab?

3.No, how can this is too much. Protecting cultural environment and social values of a nation is responsibility of govt.

4. I doubt the very presence of faith in you. Why one should be tired?

5. Stoning is prescribed only if a married person commit adultery. This must include penetration. Act of pedophilia may be of various degree. Same is the case with homosexuality. So, there will be punishment of stoning act of penetration is proven on a married person. In this case, a pedophile may be stoned to death.



Conclusion: You need to learn a lot about Islam before making such ridiculous comments. Your condition of knowledge and faith is pathetic. You are welcome to have debate with me anytime.

Edit@asker..
When Islam is applied as nation law, the same submission becomes force. If a govt. have to regulate the society by applying the law, why do you think law of freedom (west) should be applied and not law of submission (Islam). If at all rebellion is there it is with in you. Job of govt. is to enforce the law, not to preach. Preaching is task of clerics.

Edit@asker..
No, if you ever think that you have choice ovber what Allah and His rasool has ordained, you are not Muslim. However, you have choice to be Muslim or not. Once you chose to be Muslim, you must submit, otherwise it is hypocrisy.

33:36 It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path

Sam2010-05-30T12:51:22Z

Do you agree this is completely backwards or is it just me?

May be bcoz your a koranists. :)






@ Asker
Quran commands to Obey & Follow Prophet Muhammad pbuh NOT all the prophets. :)



@ Asker
Deen has been completed on Prophet Muhammed pbuh. Right?
Where in the Quran God commands us to follow ALL the Prophets, please quote the verse?
Please read 7:157 follow the messenger, the Ummi prophet (Muhammad),
Quran categorically commands to follow Prophet Muhammed pbuh, please go back and read Quran with proper historical background and context, so that you may learn. :)

If you are NOT a koranist & submitter then why don't you disown it here?

Kells is a MAN!2010-05-30T12:50:07Z

Wearing tight pants and being subject to rape and lustful gazes of men is OK but wearing loose Burqa and and protecting oneself from lustful gazes of men is not OK?

Don't forget that America is the country with the highest rape rate it the world.

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