Is "wonderful message of salvation" is only wonderful if one is lost in the first place.?

Again, why did the "perfect" God make such an imperfect creature in the first place that he would need to save it? Is this some sadistic cat-and-mouse game?

?2010-10-09T02:06:56Z

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See, some gal ate an apple. So you are damned forever. But, if you stop eating fruit you might have a chance.

Elle2010-10-09T09:11:54Z

He didn't make us imperfect, that doesn't make sense, he made us perfect creatures with free will. And with our free will, we chose to sin and to corrupt ourselves along with this world. B/c of our choice to sin against a such high authority, we have a big punishment, Hell. But thank goodness our Creator is a loving, merciful God, through His grace he provided a way for every single person to get saved. We can be saved by just a simple humbling of oneself and putting trust in the Savior alone. There's nothing sadistic about that.

?2010-10-09T09:49:19Z

Of course the message would not be wonderful if you never needed it.

God made a perfect creature but the perfect creature decided to become imperfect.

But thank God He made us perfect again

1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

wefmeister2010-10-09T09:13:07Z

God made man with free will. Free will means you can choose what is right or you can choose what is wrong. The word of God testifies Adam chose the evil and became enslaved by evil. Jesus Christ enables a man to choose the good and escape the bondage of sin and Satan. When you choose sin, you become a slave of sin.
But go ahead and keep telling yourself there is nothing wrong with you. But then no one is to blame but yourself when things unravel.
The assumption is always that it must be God's fault. This is the work of the seed of Satan in the soul.

"Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. "

John 8:34-36

I suppose nothing damns more souls to hell than pride.

?2010-10-09T09:09:55Z

Yes

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