Is "wonderful message of salvation" is only wonderful if one is lost in the first place.?

See, some gal ate an apple. So you are damned forever. But, if you stop eating fruit you might have a chance.

He didn't make us imperfect, that doesn't make sense, he made us perfect creatures with free will. And with our free will, we chose to sin and to corrupt ourselves along with this world. B/c of our choice to sin against a such high authority, we have a big punishment, Hell. But thank goodness our Creator is a loving, merciful God, through His grace he provided a way for every single person to get saved. We can be saved by just a simple humbling of oneself and putting trust in the Savior alone. There's nothing sadistic about that.

Of course the message would not be wonderful if you never needed it.

God made a perfect creature but the perfect creature decided to become imperfect.

But thank God He made us perfect again

1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

God made man with free will. Free will means you can choose what is right or you can choose what is wrong. The word of God testifies Adam chose the evil and became enslaved by evil. Jesus Christ enables a man to choose the good and escape the bondage of sin and Satan. When you choose sin, you become a slave of sin.

But go ahead and keep telling yourself there is nothing wrong with you. But then no one is to blame but yourself when things unravel.

The assumption is always that it must be God's fault. This is the work of the seed of Satan in the soul.

"Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. "

John 8:34-36

I suppose nothing damns more souls to hell than pride.

Yes

don't believe everything the evil aliens tell you. there is no "God" waiting to damn you.

listens to the good aliens who know it's all a dream and enjoy this "life" instead of thinking you're separate from a god who is everywhere. how can you be apart from something that is all places at once? if you believe in "jesus", then he said he is one with god and one with you, so we're all one. simple.

Again, God did not want to create a of world of robots, that is why He made mankind free will agents and gave us the right to choose, we can be perfect in and of ourselves if we choose to then make every effort to be so.

However, as for those of us who are in Christ Jesus, (Christians) in Him, we are perfect.

Oh and salvation is wonderful regardless of anything else, even if no one knows it...

human have a choice.

devil got into a snake and temped Eve

thats when the world went for ahhhhhhhhh!

to bahhhhhhh!

All it took was one step of disobedience against God.

The devil tried to overthrow God.

Eve ate the fruit.

Adam listened to his wife.

man, again.