Hey Xtians,you condemn idol worship,what's the Holy Family statues doing in church?
you venerate them with candles & flowers,and mind you,they are also hand graven images!
2011-06-14T07:00:10Z
hence,you're doing what you yourself condemn.It looks wrong to you just because people of other faiths are venerating gods other than the holy family. you guys are sure bias!
2011-06-14T07:04:01Z
The commandment says you shall not worship any graven image,nor have any equals to the god creator.So some of you are saying venerating the Xtian saints are ok?Christians [catholics?] go to the level of asking momma mary & the saints' intercession! Same like the pagan practices that you guys condemn.Again,biasness is the trademark of the Xtian church
2011-06-14T23:40:48Z
Tell me, what's the difference between the Xtian 'confess to one another,and pray for one another so that ye may be healed' excuse to make their worship of Saints LEGAL & the pagan's worship of their saints.It's just the same.The difference being : one,an Xtian [who's always right by their own standards], and another ->pagan, who represents everything wrong under the sky, though what they practise may seem similar to Xtians...sigh
cashelmara2011-06-17T21:53:58Z
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Catholics are Christian.......................not Xtian.
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edit: Ferdinand..........".the real Christians"............LOL!
So if someone takes flowers out to their grandparents' graves and sits there to pray, which one are they worshipping -- the grandparents or the headstone?
Most people will say, "We aren't worshiping either one. We're honoring the memory of people we loved while they were on earth."
And that is precisely what we Catholics do when we look at a picture or a statue of someone who lived a holy life and is now in Heaven. We are remembering what they did and asking God for the same kind of love, faith, and hope that the Saint displayed on earth.
Catholics know Who God is and why He deserves all of our worship, honor, and praise. I'm sorry if Protestants haven't figured it out yet.
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". . . not we the real Christians. . ."
Was "Learn of Me for I am meek and lowly of heart" was left out of Protestant Bibles? That would be the only possible justification for such arrogance and self-righteousness. But if it *is* still in Protestant Bibles, perhaps a few passages from Luke's Gospel are in order here:
Luke 18:10-14 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
We don't worship the Idols, we worship God. The Nativity scene represents the birth of our Lord. Its Him alone we worship. When we pray in front of them, we are praying to Almighty God and thanking Him for dying for our salvation. We vanerate God with the Candles and the Flowers. When a person dies and you put flowers in his/her grave, do you then venerate the stone or the grave? Of course not!
Okay 1, only Catholics actually do anything to statues, and 2, they don't actually worship them. Any image of Jesus or anyone is not to be worshiped, but to serve as a reminder.
Statues and icons are not worshiped. We worship only God. Images are used to remind us of the stories of faithful witnesses (Hebr 12:1) who have gone before us and have earned the appreciation and emulation of Christians. (We are not offended, BTW, by "Xtian" - it is an ancient usage to represent Christ by X.)
Veneration and worship are two entirely different things. Veneration is giving honor to those to whom honor is due, according to the command of the Apostle Paul: "Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour." (Rom 13:7) . Worship is "worth-ship" - expressing to God his worth to us as much as we are able. His infinite worth is impossible for us to express fully.
We ask for the intercession of the saints in the same way that we ask other righteous believers to pray for us, also at the command of the apostles: "Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much." (James 5:16)