Registration Papers & Petshop pups?

Ok can someone answer this for me: Why do people believe that petshop pups can't/don't come with registration papers? This is based on a question from someone else and the answers given.

i'm just curious if people actually believe this. BTW i'm not even talking crap registries like ConKC or even APRI, I mean LEGIT registries like AKC and UKC.

2012-03-14T12:19:22Z

Ashley: Go have a smoke, some coffee or just get some air and CHILL

"trying to breed dogs to make money?!" - uh where did you even see that

"why do you need papers!" - Did I say I needed papers?

"talking about me not taking my dog to the vet hmm at least im honest i don't have to money to go for something that MIGHT be curable at home i go to college probably something you've never set foot in" 1. Its not curable at home and even if it WAS you would still need to know WHAT THE ISSUE WAS. Which you don't for sure which is why you need to go to the vet. Second i've got my degree in business. that still doesn't absolve you obligation to this pup

"but ATLEAST i'm not on here complaining about how my dog isn't registered so i can breed him/her! PATHETIC!" 1. Wouldn't be caught dead buying from a petshop in the FIRST place. 2. If I wanted to breed I wouldn't breed unregistered crap.

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2012-03-14T12:27:33Z

Julie: Don't know if you saw their next Q but they are looking to sell the dog, which is why they were asking about the papers.

Like I said I was just curious since I've seen plenty of petshops advertising puppies with all sorts of registration. And its not like the registries care as long as they are getting paid.

2012-03-14T14:07:34Z

Yorkie: Oh most of them are legit in the sense that they are from the registries. Whether the information(age parents and so forth) is accurate is a different matter. Its nothing for a breeder to falsify information because unless there is a complaint(or a number of them) AKC isn't really going to do any checking.

A friend of mine bought a petshop pup. Came with AKC paperwork and they or rather her boyfriend even contacted the breeder and got the dog's pedigree. After some research on my part - surprise surprise came from a mill that had failed its last two inspections. Had to go back to the grandparents to even find dogs with their health clearances.Two had poor Cardiac screenings and one has/had DJD.

Anonymous2012-03-14T12:14:48Z

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Ahem....obviously people will can & DO believe in the most astonishing BS. Gladly,eagerly....desperately. They fall...no,LEAP...for the most flagrant impossibilities & deny to their dying breath (or preferably someone else's) the plain old facts. Will overhear half of some nitwit's cousin's friend's hairdresser's plumber's drunken babble to the boob on the barstool next to them,understand only half of it & gleefully parrot the spew to all & sundry as gospel.

But...that example isn't "belief"-it's just abysmal & smug ignorance.

?2012-03-14T20:42:11Z

That's simple....ppl don't believe puppymills have dogs from legit well respected registries, because as a so unrespected and shameful business it makes better sense that all these dogs are mixed, stray, or just from byb. By the way bybs have dogs registered through both of those kennel clubs. Is is really an impossible thought to some that the dogs are uncared for, unhealthy, overbred....BUT they are legitimately purebred and registered?

There's so many ways a puppymill administrator and pet shop can acquire a registered dogs. They assume all dogs in puppymills and petshops are unpapered because we all know these businesses are crapy and only care about money. Shelters have purebred dogs that once upon a time had papers or could get papers. I've seen some shelters even add to the adoption profiles that they have the registration papers...by luck.

I wonder if these same people assume petshops and puppymills spring dogs out their a**....do they really think a person with bad intentions can't go to a breeder and get a pup?

ADD I'm glad you made that point as well Rayven...the dogs could be legitimately registered but that doesn't mean the papers haven't been falsified. Anyone that participates in running a mill is questionable as far as their integrity, so they could and do hang papers.

Brittany C2012-03-14T18:58:52Z

I had to do an article back in college and I actually interviewed several petshops on their form of registration. It's very rare for a pup to come with legit papering such as the AKC and UKC.

While I didn't get this as my answer, my hypothesis was that the puppymillers didn't have proper papering on the parents in order to register them with the Kennel Clubs or didn't have enough of a pedigree to prove that the dogs were pure.

From almost every place I went (6 shops in total), only 2 of them had puppies that came with KC registration papers. Most of their stock was APRI though.

Yorkies - Dogs, Not Dolls!2012-03-14T19:56:18Z

From what I have heard (and seen) puppies from pet shops *do* come with papers. Of course I have many doubts that those papers are actually legit, seems that most puppies at stores come from Puppy Mills or BYBs. You know how easy it can be to fake papers? I'm pretty sure if someone really wanted to (just for more money), they could easily fake AKC and UKC papers.

However, I'm sure maybe sometimes (but very rarely), the papers CAN be legit. I would still not fully be convinced, however.

Ashley: ~Whoa! Telling someone to commit suicide over this? Damn! You didn't even read the fricken' question, did you?

Julie D.2012-03-14T19:01:28Z

Yes, they can come with papers from the AKC and UKC, and I did answer that person's question. The reason why I answered it as I did, was to just rattle their chains about buying from a pet shop, even though the deed is already done. Maybe it was wrong of me to answer as I did, but the person didn't actually ask a question to begin with AND maybe the dog was even a mutt. It was a new account anyway, and we all pretty much know how that goes. So, yes they can if both of the parents are on FULL AKC registration.

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