How The Hell Did That evolve?

Let’s take a look at the honey bee. The honey bee has the most complex society in the animal world. First we have the queen she is the heart of the hive all she does is mate and lay eggs.

The worker bees make the comb which is as you know is octagon cells. What you may not know is this the strongest structure you can make with the least amount of material. Each side is a side of another cell. This makes it the lightest and strongest structure that can be built. The queen lays an egg in the cell the workers put food in the cell and seal it with wax. What you don’t know is the bee is genetically engineered. All the larvae that hatch are female the type of food the is put into the cell determines the sex of the bee! How this works we don’t know! If it is born a female it will be sterile a non queen it will be a worker. All the bees you see collecting nectar are female! If the workers feeds the leave with a different type of food it will become a male drone his main job is to mate with the queen. (what a life!) The workers control the sexual population of the hive how they know how to do this is yet unknown.

If the workers feed the larvae royal jelly it will become a queen. What happens next is amazing. If the current queen is old and is becoming infertile the two queens will fight to the death the surviving queen will take over the hive. If the hive has become as large as it can get like the hollow of the tree is full. The new queen will stay in the hive three or four days about half of the hive will become loyal to her she will leave and form a new hive with her loyal subjects! How do the queens know hey we are not fighting to the death here we are just splitting the hive we don’t know. Also sometimes the hive gets so large one queen can’t lay enough eggs to fill it. A queen will be hatched and now the hive will have two queens! The eggs that hatch will be loyal to the queen that laid them! How the queens know we are not fighting to the death here there is enough room for the both of us we don’t know!

When a beekeeper wants to harvest the honey he smokes out the hive the bees become docile it was thought it was because the smoke confused the bees. Many animals become confused in smoke. A horse will stay in a burning barn and just burn up, many times cows will too. With cameras that can fit on a pinhead researchers are able to see bee behaviour when the beekeeper is smoking them out! The bees are not confused at all they know where there's smoke there's fire! The workers gorge themselves with as much honey as they can carry they start to make preparations to evacuate the hive and form a new one! They don’t defend the hive because we’re getting the hell out of here!

So what came first the Hive or the queen? The queen can not feed herself she needs workers to do that! The queen can not make wax to build a hive workers do that! She can only re-produce female offspring workers have to make the food to feed the larva to make a male. So how the hell did this evolve!?


Rom 1:20 KJV For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

free spirit2012-08-16T11:02:41Z

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the bears thank god for the honey bee....

Samwise2012-08-16T11:20:50Z

The quick answer to your main question is "it evolved a bit at a time." The mistake made by most of those who argue for "irreducible complexity" is that they haven't really considered either the ways in which complexities can develop gradually, or the very large amount of time over which small stages of development accumulate. Earlier, simpler variations often die out because the more complex ones are better adapted to compete, so the stages aren't obvious.

Your description of the honeybee ends with a paragraph assuming that the whole combination of physical design and instinctive behavior had to appear, in finished form, without any simpler stages of development. That's roughly similar to arguing that newborn human beings have to arrive as fully functioning and educated adults instead of as babies. It's not how it works because it doesn't make sense.

The honeycomb cell construction (as someone already pointed out, hexagonal rather than octagonal) was a case that interested Darwin; in the sixth edition of "The Origin of Species" (the one I've read), he discusses how insects apparently "programmed" to produce it might have evolved. The fact that it's the most efficient for their purpose (giving them an evolutionary advantage) and that it's the natural result of having adjacent worker bees constructing walls in a rough circle around them (so the walls between them get flattened) are both significant points.


I happen to be a Christian. What I cannot understand about creationists is that they apparently insist God is not smart enough to create a world in which life forms are endowed with the capacity to adapt, evolve, and diversify. Why would anyone insist that God is limited by their own understanding? How could such a being be God at all?

?2016-09-13T03:09:04Z

I could assume that the proposal of 1 receiving punishment for what one has performed for the period of their lifetime when they die has been round for a long time. And means earlier than there used to be any one compiling and even writing Hebrew Texts. Supposedly there are lots of distinct Belief Systems that had a proposal very similar to that some distance earlier than the Hebrews got here up with their variant. A lot of Historians even feel that the proposal of Hell is some thing that the Hebrew individuals borrowed from different Faiths that have been practiced through distinct peoples who stored conquering them. And will factor to specified scriptures in which they feel there used to be much less emphasis on an after existence & extra emphasis on how following the God in their People could support them of their possess lives at the same time they have been residing as adversarial to a few everlasting outcome or gift when they die. Regardless I'm certain the proposal is far older than the Hebrew People or the Religious Figure of Abraham.

kumorifox2012-08-16T11:03:12Z

"The queen can not feed herself she needs workers to do that! The queen can not make wax to build a hive workers do that! She can only re-produce female offspring workers have to make the food to feed the larva to make a male."

Wrong. Initially, the queen would fend for herself, build the hive, and take care of the larvae. However, once there are enough workers to take over, the queen can devote her energy to increasing the population.

Thus, your question is moot.

morrowynd2012-08-16T11:10:34Z

It evolved over billions of years with far more failures than successes. Nothing sprung into existence in it's current form. Only the successful form survives to reproduce. Bees with genetic tendency to shape the hive and feed the queen lived to pass their genes on. Literally billions of years and certainly as many failures.

Now. What is the complex explanation that proves God exists when one looks at cancer, anacephalia, SIDS, etc?

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