How The Hell Did That evolve?

the bears thank god for the honey bee....

The quick answer to your main question is "it evolved a bit at a time." The mistake made by most of those who argue for "irreducible complexity" is that they haven't really considered either the ways in which complexities can develop gradually, or the very large amount of time over which small stages of development accumulate. Earlier, simpler variations often die out because the more complex ones are better adapted to compete, so the stages aren't obvious.

Your description of the honeybee ends with a paragraph assuming that the whole combination of physical design and instinctive behavior had to appear, in finished form, without any simpler stages of development. That's roughly similar to arguing that newborn human beings have to arrive as fully functioning and educated adults instead of as babies. It's not how it works because it doesn't make sense.

The honeycomb cell construction (as someone already pointed out, hexagonal rather than octagonal) was a case that interested Darwin; in the sixth edition of "The Origin of Species" (the one I've read), he discusses how insects apparently "programmed" to produce it might have evolved. The fact that it's the most efficient for their purpose (giving them an evolutionary advantage) and that it's the natural result of having adjacent worker bees constructing walls in a rough circle around them (so the walls between them get flattened) are both significant points.

I happen to be a Christian. What I cannot understand about creationists is that they apparently insist God is not smart enough to create a world in which life forms are endowed with the capacity to adapt, evolve, and diversify. Why would anyone insist that God is limited by their own understanding? How could such a being be God at all?

I could assume that the proposal of 1 receiving punishment for what one has performed for the period of their lifetime when they die has been round for a long time. And means earlier than there used to be any one compiling and even writing Hebrew Texts. Supposedly there are lots of distinct Belief Systems that had a proposal very similar to that some distance earlier than the Hebrews got here up with their variant. A lot of Historians even feel that the proposal of Hell is some thing that the Hebrew individuals borrowed from different Faiths that have been practiced through distinct peoples who stored conquering them. And will factor to specified scriptures in which they feel there used to be much less emphasis on an after existence & extra emphasis on how following the God in their People could support them of their possess lives at the same time they have been residing as adversarial to a few everlasting outcome or gift when they die. Regardless I'm certain the proposal is far older than the Hebrew People or the Religious Figure of Abraham.

"The queen can not feed herself she needs workers to do that! The queen can not make wax to build a hive workers do that! She can only re-produce female offspring workers have to make the food to feed the larva to make a male."

Wrong. Initially, the queen would fend for herself, build the hive, and take care of the larvae. However, once there are enough workers to take over, the queen can devote her energy to increasing the population.

Thus, your question is moot.

It evolved over billions of years with far more failures than successes. Nothing sprung into existence in it's current form. Only the successful form survives to reproduce. Bees with genetic tendency to shape the hive and feed the queen lived to pass their genes on. Literally billions of years and certainly as many failures.

Now. What is the complex explanation that proves God exists when one looks at cancer, anacephalia, SIDS, etc?

I'm not even about to read this long winded Watchmaker analogy....it's nothing more than some argument from ignorance. Well, if the bees are so complex that they would have to have a creator that designed them that way, then the designer must also have a complex mind to be able to do so..so who is his creator? And the creator of that creator? Just because Science can't tell you where life begin doesn't mean you can insert God in the gaps without proving it.

Can you not get your head around the idea of a billion infinitessimally small changes over a period of millions of years brought this about? Or can some religious people not count higher than seven thousand? Is that where the difficulty is?

It may not make any sense to you now, but science is something you must believe. Bees are evolving all the time. Have you ever seen those Japanese Godzilla movies? They had a gigantic moth in there, but luckily Godzilla took care of it. As long as you drink your fluoridated tap water, you should be ok. Thanks for asking anyway.

Verily interesting the reality we live in!

And that without gods who said we are perfectly made with foreskins but shall cut them off as some sort of blood sacrifice, that snails melt and that the heavens are a firm roof painted there for our amusement etc etc etc etc etc...

Btw watchmaker is so old his grandchildren are dead by now, drop it for eff sake >_<

1. Solitary lifeforms

2. Rudimentary organization

3. Specialization

4. Loss of reproductive capability to increase productivity

The chicken came before the egg. Otherwise you would be able to order sunnyside up at Denny's tomorrow morning.