If consciousness does exist as a field and our brains are detectors making illusioned perceptions of self...?
...then individual consciousness is still tied to brain activity, and biological death would end the existence of individual consciousness, unless the energy pattern of the individual mind which creates an illusion for itself manages a way to sustain itself with the brain to supply energy...
Is this conceivable due to the illusioned ego not willing to let go of itself, and shear willpower of the illusion manifests to derive energy from the surrounding environment?
2012-10-17T23:33:16Z
"this doesnt sound scientific" - That's because it's philosophical based on recent scientific studies, which are not yet properly called conclusions. I'm just a step ahead of them. http://www.hulu.com/watch/409189#i0,p0,d0
2012-10-17T23:36:39Z
"being reabsorbed into a cosmic consciousness network" - "unless the energy pattern of the individual mind which creates an illusion for itself, manages a way to sustain itself withOUT the brain to supply energy..." Sorry, mistakes get by.
Blue Dream2012-10-17T23:57:51Z
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The idea is conceivable. But the question is still HOW would the mind/identity maintain itself without the structure and "hardware" of the brain.
Now... if we're all part of a computer simulation, then that identity algorithm could be transferred to another part of the mainframe or into a different program, or onto a storage device, possibly to be reinserted later.
The brain uses it senses as a way to understand and detect its surroundings. now the brain making illusioned perception of self yes it does as people use their knowledge to define and understand themselves. Yes with the death of the brain which gives consciousness then the "existence" of that person is dead. Ur explanation means that can a person's will to live and not die cause a person's consciousness to be tied to its surroundings and become a part of it since its brain will be dead. Well that is more like a Native american spirituality where a person's spirit will become the land itself and not as scientific as u make it to be but there are scientific studies that if a person dies if they can leave a sort of energy on the place of their death. It isnt very scientific but scientist are making these studies to explain the supernatural but so far they are inconclusive or hold little evidence.
How about: Our mind is in our soul, which is in our body. When a person undergoes, what is called an out-of-body experience, the view is out of the body, often looking down at the body. The mind is contained within the soul, and is jealous for the body, with a desire to protect it.
If the mind were not contained, and were a "field", it would continue to expand until it would be out of touch of any essence of the individual. The person would be no more. But the dynamics are different, and the soul is the container.
The soul, with the spirit of a person, gives life to the body, that is given a destiny from its creator, while still in the womb, Jeremiah 1:4-5.
I don't necessarily believe in the afterlife, or in any form of a spirit. That said, you're statement is incorrect. "How can our consciousness exist without our brain? If you know that the brain is the only place where we find consciousness, where can our memories go after we die?" We don't know that the brain is the only place where we find consciousness. No one actually fully understands consciousness, there are many theories on it, but there is nothing generally accepted about it. We don't know that our consciousness and brain are codependent. Now, as to where our memories can go after we die; I don't have a clue. If we have consciousness that can be separate from the body, then it either had to be able to be in the same place as somethign else (presumably our brain), or exists wherever there is space for it.
Your logic is faulty but you are close. The brain may be or not be a recording device and the mind may be dependent on the brain but you are not the mind, you are Consciousness itself not dependent on anything to survive. You are not reabsorbed into the One Consciousness that is God because you were never separated. Separation and re-absorption is the Western view while the Eastern view is that we have always been absorbed but that as Sri Ramana Maharshi said, "You don't realize it due to your restless mind and your perverted way of life.
To me, the Indian philosophy of Advaita Vedanta makes all Western Philosophers and their philosophies appear as scribblings of a 5 y/o child. The peak experience of Union with our True Self cannot be proven to someone else but it can be proven to the individual himself through direct experience. The books of Mouni Sadhu and the teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi have no equals. The experience of the Realization of the True Self is described as Sat Chit Ananda, Truth, Consciousness, Bliss and that was my experience when I was there.
You have to leave a dependence on Western Science and Western Logic. Logic itself is good but highly limited. It depends on axioms which are unproven but accepted anyway. Science used to be dependable but today has become a religion itself and has unproven theories which are considered dogma and if not verbalized as true the scientist is excommunicated.