Why does Jesus say "Holy Spirit baptism SAVES" in Mark 16:16 but most "Christians" believe they're saved by everything else but?
2019-09-28T09:36:55Z
HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM INCLUDING JUST BELIEVING BUT DON'T KNOW ***WHAT*** TO BELIEVE (ROMANS 10:14-15)?
DON'T TRY AND TELL ME MARK 16:16 IS REFERRING TO A WATER BAPTISM LIKE THE RELIGION OF CHRISTIANITY HAS TAUGHT YOU BECAUSE YOU KNOW GOOD AND WELL THERE WERE NO "SIGNS FOLLOWING" (MARK 16:17-18) YOUR WATER BAPTISM!
OPsaltis2019-10-05T14:28:39Z
It does not say "Holy Spirit baptism", but says only that baptism is necessary. In context it is water baptism. When the Ethiopian eunuch was converted, he received water baptism explicitly (Acts 8:36-39). Water baptism was already the practice of the Church.
Not only that, but when some converts were receive who had *already received the Holy Spirit*, they were baptized in water. Acts 10:44-48. Please read carefully. There is no scriptural justification for rejecting water baptism.
The prefiguration and prophecy of water baptism is all over the Old Testament;
—At the very dawn of creation your Spirit breathed on the waters, making them the wellspring of all holiness.13 (Genesis)
—The Church has seen in Noah's ark a prefiguring of salvation by Baptism, for by it "a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water":14
—The crossing of the Red Sea, literally the liberation of Israel from the slavery of Egypt, announces the liberation wrought by Baptism:
You freed the children of Abraham from the slavery of Pharaoh, bringing them dry-shod through the waters of the Red Sea, to be an image of the people set free in Baptism.16
All these events required real water to save the people (because it was foreshadowing of baptism
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
You have glorified in your shame long enough Norine.
Mark 15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”