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Offical Scoring Question...?
If a team grounds into a double play but a run crosses the plate, does it count?
Example: 1st and 3rd, one out, double play ball to shortstop, to second one, during transfer to first run crosses the plate. Does run count?
I mean, a inning ending double play.
7 Answers
- C_BarLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
The run does not count on an inning ending double play if the second out was a force out.
If, however, the second out (of the double play) was not a force out, then the run counts if it crossed the plate before the second out. For example, if the first out of the double play is at first, and then the runner at first is out trying to go to third, or is in a run-down between first and second. This also covers situations in which the first out is a fly ball and the runner at first is attempting to tag and advance, or to return to the base. In either case it is not a force out, and if the runner at thrid crosses home before the runner ar first is tagged out, the run scores.
Source(s): Here is a relevant rule from the Offical Rules of MLB (2.00): A FORCE PLAY is a play in which a runner legally loses his right to occupy a base by reason of the batter becoming a runner. Rule 2.00 (Force Play) Comment: Confusion regarding this play is removed by remembering that frequently the “force” situation is removed during the play. Example: Man on first, one out, ball hit sharply to first baseman who touches the bag and batter-runner is out. The force is removed at that moment and runner advancing to second must be tagged. If there had been a runner on third or second, and either of these runners scored before the tag-out at second, the run counts. Had the first baseman thrown to second and the ball then had been returned to first, the play at second was a force out, making two outs, and the return throw to first ahead of the runner would have made three outs. In that case, no run would score. Example: Not a force out. One out. Runner on first and third. Batter flies out. Two out. Runner on third tags up and scores. Runner on first tries to retouch before throw from fielder reaches first baseman, but does not get back in time and is out. Three outs. If, in umpire’s judgment, the runner from third touched home before the ball was held at first base, the run counts. - 1 decade ago
No, the run does not count... even if it crosses the plate before the second out is completed. There are exceptions... for example if there are runners on 1st and 3rd and a ball is hit to the outfield. If the runner on third tags up and goes home and the second runner gets caught in a run down ... then the run would count if it crossed before the second out... but in the situation that you described, the run does not count.
- 1 decade ago
No the run does not count if it is a forced out. With the runners on first and third and the ball hit to the shortstop who either tags second or throws it to the second baseman who then throws it to first for the third out, the runner on third does not score even if he crosses the plate before the third out.
- 1 decade ago
No, it does not count. Much in the same way that it does not count if there is a runner on 3rd and two outs and someone grounds out, but it is actually after the runner on third crosses home plate.
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- 1 decade ago
Most of the time No he doesnt score
but if the double play take a long time to turn and the runner is in a long time before the ball is caught by the first basemen then he is safe but, if it is a regular double play the run doesnt count
- Anonymous1 decade ago
No, this run would not count. No run scores on a play where the batter was retired BEFORE reaching first base. Now, if he reached first base, then the runner scored, then he was tagged out (say he rounded the base towards second a little too far and they threw behind him), that run WOULD count as long as it was scored before the runner at first was tagged out. This is referred to as a "timing play" by umpires
Source(s): Eight years as a certified umpire.
