what happens in chemotherapy and dialysis???

I have studued chemotherapy a little.

here are some extracts from my web site.

Chemotherapy involves the use of extremely toxic petrochemical drugs in the hope, never realised, of killing the disease before killing the patient. The drugs are designed to kill all fast-growing cells, cancerous or not. All cells caught in the act of division are systematically poisoned. The effects include hair loss, violent nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, cramps, impotence, sterility, extreme pain, fatigue, immune-system destruction, cancer and death.

According to the government's own figures,11 around 2 percent of chemotherapy recipients are still alive after 5 years: the term 'alive' is used, here, in its literal sense: i.e. not yet clinically dead.

'Recently someone very dear to me, someone who can never be replaced, died a premature and totally unnecessary death. He had cancer and he was my father. Although there are safe, effective, natural treatments for this dreaded disease...my father allowed himself to be talked into having chemotherapy.

The side-effects of the drugs were horrendous and unspeakably cruel but he persevered with the treatment because he had faith and trust in his doctors and believed every word they told him. Clearly he was dying but he continued taking the awful treatments because he was repeatedly told that he was doing 'so well'. After all, the good doctors wouldn't lie to him, would they?...the truth about his real condition was not revealed to him until my mother accompanied him to the clinic for what was to be his last treatment...the prognosis was "very grim"...my father had less than a month to live... then, and only then, did my father allow us to take him elsewhere for non-toxic treatment...My husband took him to a cancer help centre where he received metabolic therapy...he was one hundred percent more comfortable and relatively free of pain...and he died a peaceful death.

He did not die of cancer, however, but of pneumonia, one of the chemotherapy's side-effects. Chemotherapy damages if not destroys the body's immune defence system...had my father been told that chemotherapy would never cure him...he would have allowed us to take him elsewhere...much sooner...I keep thinking of the Hippocratic oath, in particular, the first line, "First do no harm", and, "I will never do harm to anyone. To please no one will I prescribe a deadly drug, nor give advice which may cause his death." I loved my dad very much and to lose him in this cruel horrible unnecessary manner is certainly the heartbreak of my life.'12

Whilst toxic chemotherapy has killed untold millions of patients, a systemic approach, using genuine, natural, anti-cancer agents is a valid, if not ideal, approach to cancer. 'Radiotherapy', however, is devoid of any rational basis in theory or practice.

'Chemotherapy and radiotherapy will make the ancient method of drilling holes in a patient's head, to permit the escape of demons, look relatively advanced...the use of cobalt...effectively closes the door on cure.'

The five year survival rates for the different onslaughts are:

Surgery - 22 percent

Radiotherapy -12 percent

Surgery/radiotherapy combined - 6 percent

Chemotherapy plus others - 2.5 percent

Chemotherapy alone - 1.6 percent

'By the time you read this my son Michael, who is just five, will be almost at the end of a year's course of treatment for cancer.To show for it Michael has a scar from one side of his body to the other, where doctors removed a huge malignant tumour and one of his kidneys. Radiotherapy at Bart's hospital left him limp like a rag doll with all the stuffing knocked out of him. Chemotherapy has made all of his hair fall out. The drugs.make him vomit for hours on end.his face is small and mostly pale: his eyes are dark and sullen and shadowed, the way a child's eyes should never be.'

Toxicologically, amygdalin falls between Class 1 and Class 2.36 Which means it is virtually non-toxic. This compares with saccharin, between Class 3 and Class 4 and most 'chemotherapy': Class 6 - super toxic.

Chemotherapy kills rapidly dividing cells. Since cancer cells fit this description, it tend to kill them. Unfortunately, the cells lining the gut, and hair follicles also fit this description, which is why people undergoing chemo usually lose all their body hair and have ulcers in their mouth. Some chemotherapy is neurotoxic too, and can cause burning pain sensations in the hands and feet. Some chemo causes sloughing on the skin of the hands and feet (called hand-foot syndrome) Chemo can be painful, and it is not at all pleasant. At the very least, it makes you feel very tired all the time you are getting it, even when it's not causing any of the things i've described. Dialysis is mechanical cleaning of the blood, replacing the function of kidneys. A needle or two is stuck in an artery and a vein, the blood is routed by the dialysis machine through a special filter called an ultrafiltrate, then returned to your body. It can take a couple hours per dialysis session and if you have no functioning kidneys, then you need to go three times a week or more to get rid of the metabolic poisons your body creates just by your living (urea, nitrogen compound, ammonias, etc.) Some types of dialysis is performed by infusing special flluid, called dialysate, into the abdomen. This is called peritoneal dialysis, and it is used in people who are in mild renal failure, but haven't gotten to full blown kidney failure.

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In chemotherapy, generally you go to an outpatient clinic and sit in a chair. An IV bag containing your "cocktail" is hooked up to you and you wait, maybe 2-4 hours as it drips. You can read or listen to music and such. Then you are disconnected and you can go home. Some people receive chemo in their homes by a visiting nurse.

There are many different kinds of chemotherapy drugs, and everyone is a bit different in their response to medications so the range of reactions or side effects can vary greatly. Common side effects of commonly used drugs include nausea, fatigue, metallic taste in the mouth, loss of hair -- all body hair, eyelashes, eybrows, etc -- flu-like symptoms, water retention & weight gain, immune system suppression, headache, depression, dry mouth, etc. The newer chemo drugs can have fewer side effects -- or not. On the other hand, sometimes there are severe side effects. When my husband went through chemotherapy, his liver and kidneys shut down and he had to stop.

In dialysis, you generally go to an outpatient clinic or hospital. In some cases, you can have this, too, at home, administered by a visiting nurse. You typically have blood drawn and analyzed, then you are hooked up to the dialysis machine by IV's and you wait a few hours. From what I observed, dialysis leaves a person exhausted, yet feeling better. Then a little later, dehydrated, thirsty, headachy.

After you have been on dialysis or chemo for a while, you run out of usable veins for placement of the needles, so the doctor might build a port or stent -- basically something that acts like a valve, so you don't have to endure the endless needle sticks. That helps it hurt less. But for the most part, it was not so much a pain that bothered my husband, but constant sickness and fatigue. And you have to deal with the psychological impact of knowing that you have poising dripping into your body. A lot of times, that's essentially what chemotherapy is -- you want to take enough poinson to kill the cancer cells, but not enough to kill you.

First of all, I want to say that I feel truly sorry for anyone who would have to undergo both chemotherapy and dialysis...neither are particularly pleasant.

I'm a bit more familiar with dialysis, so I'll give you a bit of a detailed explanation in a moment, but as for chemotherapy, the general idea, as far as I understand it is that chemicals are injected or in some other way introduced in to the body of the patient with the hope that those chemicals will kill any cancerous cells that the patient might have. The downside is that this has the potential of killing *good* cells too.

As for dialysis...someone mentioned that there are different types, and that person was right, there are two types. One is called Peritoneal dialysis, the other is Hemo dialysis.

In general, dialysis is a medical proceedure used to remove impurities from a person's body. It is basically a medical replacement for normally functioning kidneys. When a patient has kidney failure, some form of dialysis is required for them to survive.

Generally speaking, Peritoneal dialysis is the more 'minor' form. It can be done from a patient's home typically, and it involves "flushing" the patient's system with a fluid that simultaneously removes toxins from their body. This is accomplished by the use of a catheter that is inserted below the peritoneal skin layer, (hence the proceedure name).

Hemo dialysis (hemo meaning blood), is the process of literally removing, filtering, and then replacing a patient's blood. The hemo-dialysis process is reserved for the most severe cases of kidney failure, and it is both time consuming and the needles, (which are inserted in to catheters surgically implanted under the skin), can be somewhat painful. A typical hemo-dialysis proceedure can take up to four hours, as compared to the hour to two hours required by the other method.

Again, in both cases, dialysis is used as a replacement for normal kidney function.

Hope this is enlightening :-)

Steve

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Hi,

So Dialysis is a method for cleaning bllod, commonly used for people in renal (kidney) failure,

Basically the blood is passed through a machine, which filters certain impurities from it and then passes it back into the body.

This is not painfull, but uncomfortable and inconvinient (so I have been told)

Chemotherapy, is commonly used as a treatment for Cancer.

During this treatment a cocktail of chemicals is injected directly into the body, the purpose of this is to try and kill certain cell types, obviously the cancer cells.

This treatment can be very destructive, and it's effectiveness reduces over time so it's only used in relatively short cycles, and is often used with radio therapy.

Chemotherapy has many potential side effects including nausia, skin reactions and hair loss.

Hope this helps

Owen

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in dialysis your blood is filtered through artificial kidney. you have a chatheter. you also have fistula on your hand where arteria and vena are stiched together. It vibres when it is working. it feels unusual when you touch it. if you go to dialysis and have cronical kidney damage you have about 20 years of life if you are not transplated. patients have treatments 3 times a week for 4 houres. i feel sorry for the dialysis patients. it does not hurt but it also isn´t enjoyable.

having chemotherapy your body is fighting poisson. the treatment is long and sometimes fatal for the patient. if the patient is treated too late. i think chemotherapy is more painful than dialysis.

I can't answer about Chemo, however I have had dialysis. Its not fun dong either of them. There are two types the first is called hemo dialysis which you have to have your blood cleaned through a machine. This usally takes about two to four hours three or more times a week. The one I did is called paratenal. This type your carry a fluid in cavity around your stomach. You make a exchange usally about every four to eight hours. It is usally done in about 45 minutes. The later one gives you alot more freedom, and less pain. Hope this answered your question.

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chemotherapy- in terms u will understand is giving medication to kill cancer cells, it can be given by mouth, through the vein or through the spine(intrathecal) now also through the intraperitoneal (abdominal cavity) chemotherapy doesnt hurt but it will if the the iv needle is not in the right place...also the discomfort comes because of the side effects of the medication used. dialysis- it is the use of artificial kidney machine... the machine will function as the kidneys but outside the body... the machine uses a solution that helps purify the blood.....