Why do pretentious, self-absorbed tweens think that they have the right to declare what's good music?

I dont know much about Fall Out Boy, but maybe this will shed some light on your query.....

The term "SELLING OUT" is something at supposed "non-conformists" use. What they really mean is that the band got really popular and now have a huge fan base, so they pretend to hate them based on the fact that everybody now likes them.

I've never been able to figure it out myself. Why its "sooo cool" to say that you "only listen to bands that nobody knows about." And why it's cool to put down popular bands based on the sole reason that they are popular, I will never understand.

Its pretentious and hypocritical. Being a non-conformist is now so commonplace that it is no longer non-conformity.

A message to self-claimed non-conformists: get over yourselves.

It is pretty simply really. When an artist first starts out, it establishes his or her identity. Take Eminem for example. When he first started, his music was all about making fun of mainstream culture, and the fact that he was white. As he grew as an artist his music evolved, and became more serious. The same thing happens at different levels all throughout the music industry. They called Eminem a "sell-out" because he didnt do any more underground music, for which I didnt blame him (it wasnt all the good to begin with).

Even producers and promoters go through the label at different stages of their careers. People don't like change. It's not the so called tweens that do it, everyone does. Depending on what type of music you listen to and how old you are, you either like old Metallica, or the new stuff. Very rarely do people like both.

Simple: They are pretentious, self-absorbed tweens. I know many bands that dont sound like they did when they started, and it's all because they take chances with their music and keep growing. If they stayed the same throughout the 20 years or so, then things would definately get stale. I'm glad that bands like Fall Out Boy and AFI are willing to think outside of the box. Go you. And it bothers me when fans of bands bash other fans because they "knew of them longer" and the new fans are only there because they heard them on MTV or some other thing. Fans are fans. New or old.

Yeah, well, there are several things you're not taking into consideration here. You're thinking rationally - "tweens," as you call them, do not think and are not capable of being rational, per definition. Then there's the consumers' arrogant and self-indulgent belief that artists exist to satisfy them, and the resulting rants when artists do their own thing, ignoring the obsessive-compulsive idiots who would allow no change, ever. But, along the lines of your conclusion, I could tell you that if you don't like the "tweens'" opinions (Why would you even care about their thoughts? Why would anyone?), you don't have to read them and pay attention to them - that's not too hard, either.

Bono Axl Rose Kanye West Prince - The king of the egomaniacs Liam & Noel Gallagher Madonna P. Diddy Scott Weiland Mariah Carey - How can we overlook..... Bob Geldof Sting Chris Martin Elton John Sheryl Crow Anthony Kiedis - now unlikely to lie purely because he's in my worry-free band Clavioline all the way all of us be jammin????

I totally agree with you, they've said that about My Chemical Romance, Avenged Sevenfold and so many other bands. Just because a band sounds different doesn't mean that they're selling out.

first of all, im partly one of those pretentious self-absorbed tweens, and music is my life. one of the reasons that we think we can do this is cuz it seems to us that were paying the most attention to music, and we think this because our parents r constantly yelling at us to 'take those headphones out of our ears'. also, i no wat u mean by people not liking bands bcuz they change; green day is one of the best examples. the other thing about these bands is that u either love them or u hate them. im not sure about FOB, but Green Day also fits that description.

Because they're pretentious, self-absorbed tweens.

Do you really need more than that?