9/11 conspiracy?

1. " Well documented explosions" did not occur. Columbia University was running sensitive seismic recorders at the time & they picked up nothing. When conspiracy theorists talk about “well documented explosions, ” they are simply referring to the puffs of air that demolition experts have stated are not explosions. See http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%...

Somehow, puffs of air are now “explosions.”

2. Lists of so-called experts who doubt the official explanation of 9/11 are worthless for one big reason:

The doubting scientists in this list have published nothing at all. Not one article on their 9/11 beliefs. There are no articles on thermite, none on free fall, nothing.

On the contrary, the real experts have printed dozens of real articles, in peer-reviewed journals, technical journals, and trade journals explaining how the jets caused the Towers to collapse. This is the way real science is done. You publish it in a science journal, sign your name. People know your credentials and they review the article & then publish IF it’s good.

Since there is not one single article published in the technical literature by the doubting scientists, that means their ideas are worthless, no-one will accept them, they are all rejected. To any intelligent person, that ends this argument completely.

3. Professor Steven E. Jones, from BYU (Brigham Young University) may have published 40 papers, but none of them are on the 9-11 collapse. He's wholly unqualified in civil engineering. Jones’ department is physics and his research is in “cold fusion.”

The correct department for analysis of the twin-tower collapse is engineering, not physics.

The engineering dept at Jones own University (BYU) has heavily criticized Jones. D. Allan Firmage, Professor Emeritus, Civil Engineering, BYU, called Jones’ statements “very disturbing.” Also, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology [at BYU] do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones."

See http://www.debunking911.com/jones.htm to see how Jones was ripped apart by his own University.

Jones made so many false statements about thermite being used in 9/11 that finally the editors at “Implosion World” contacted him. They cornered him with the facts. He admitted that his theories had many unexplained holes. He also admitted that none of the steel showed thermite’s “degenerative fingerprint.” See page 7, section 4 of http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%...

4. A pod? One of the clearest, most widely seen pictures of the doomed jet's undercarriage was taken by photographer Rob Howard and published in New York magazine and elsewhere (opening page). PM sent a digital scan of the original photo to Ronald Greeley, director of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State University. Greeley is an expert at analyzing images to determine the shape and features of geological formations based on shadow and light effects. After studying the high-resolution image and comparing it to photos of a Boeing 767-200ER's undercarriage, Greeley dismissed the notion that the Howard photo reveals a "pod." In fact, the photo reveals only the Boeing's right fairing, a pronounced bulge that contains the landing gear. He concludes that sunlight glinting off the fairing gave it an exaggerated look. (from Pop Mechanics website)

The "object" is the shadow of the right engine of the aircraft. Look closely. It is identical in size and shape and just a few degrees aft of the wing. The sun is on the right in the picture and it's like 9 in the morning. Perfect shadow. Where's the video from 3 seconds before the plane rotated to that position? I'm sure it exists but doesn't fit the intentions of the hoaxer with the stupid claim. It would take a monumental engineering feat to install a weapons pylon on an aircraft not designed for the purpose. And to do it at Bostons Logan Airport while the ground crew was there would be impossible. A hoax and a joke and a waste of valuable Internet space.

To the long long poster with a "list" of names...YAWN! There are more people with larger resumes that KNOW that this was an act of terror.

In addition,

1- 1- It wasn’t a controlled explosion, because it could take could take an entire TEAM of people 3 months PER BUILDING to have a controlled demolition of buildings that size. Unfortunately, there are UNEDUCATED PEOPLE who think that one man could do it in 15 minutes, but that is not the case. READ!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_implosion

2- It’s nearly impossible for someone to have not noticed the building’s beams were rigged with explosives…especially for a 3 month period. One of the thousands of people entering into the buildings would have tip off security,..if not, security themselves would have discovered them.

3- Bush has no access to getting 9 volunteers (3 per plane) to be suicide pilots. If you think so, prove it. What about Clinton? Didn't he let Osama go years ago? Yes, but he had nothing to do with it either.

4- Bin Laden admitted responsibility, hatred for America, and wants to bring us down.

5- Eyewitnesses, cell records, structural engineers have testified that this was an act of plane going into the building.

Again, anyone with common sense knows what happened. You might want to stick with the “Elvis is still alive” theory.

9/11 was not a conspiracy!

military controlled planes flew into the twin towers, and into the pentagon.

well documented explosions going off at the towers brought them down at free fall speed, shattering the floors at a rate of 10 floors per second.

what happened to the planes and their passengers is not known.

this is a not a conspiracy. until the US government can release more tapes of the plane hitting the pentagon, and the 9/11 report can be conducted by an unbaised source, without subject to censorship from the powers that be, it is considered the true reality in my mind, since it has many more logical consistencies.

Here is a list of just a few of the other "tin foil hatters" that believe that the towers were imploded by controlled demolition.

Richard Gage, AIA, Architect – Member, American Institute of Architects. A practicing Architect for 20 years who has worked on most types of building construction including numerous fire-proofed steel-framed buildings. Founding member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

Jack Keller, PhD, PE – Professor Emeritus, Civil and Environmental Engineering, Utah State University. Member, National Academy of Engineering. Selected by Scientific American magazine as one of the world's 50 leading contributors to science and technology benefiting society (2004).

International advisor on water resources, development and agricultural water use. Serves as an advisor to the CALFED Water Use Efficiency Program and former member CALFED Independent Science Board. Awarded State of Utah Governor's Medal for Science and Technology (1988).

Hugo Bachmann, PhD – Professor Emeritus and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Author and co-author of Erdbebenbemessung von Stahlbetonhochbauten (Seismic Analysis of Concrete Reinforced Structures) (1990), Vibration Problems in Structures: Practical Guidelines (1995), Biege- und Schubversuche an teilweise vorgespannten Leichtbetonbalken (Structural Analysis of Linked Concrete Beams) (1998), Hochbau für Ingenieure. Eine Einführung (Structural Construction for Engineers. An introduction) (2001), Erdbebensicherung von Bauwerken (Earthquake-proofing Buildings) (2002).

Jörg Schneider, Dr hc – Professor Emeritus, Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Former President, Joint Committee on Structural Safety, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Elected member of the Swiss Academy of Engineering Sciences. Former Vice President and honorary lifetime member of the International Association for Bridge and Structural Engineering.

David Leifer, BSc, B.Arch, M.Ed, PhD, IEng, ACIBSE – Coordinator, Graduate Programme in Facilities Management, University of Sydney. Formerly taught at University of Auckland (1993 - 2001), University of Queensland (1986 - 1993), Mackintosh School of Architecture (1984 - 1986). Registered Architect. Incorporated Engineer.

Mario Fontana, Dr Sc CE – Professor of Structural Analysis and Construction, Institute of Structural Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. Former Director of the Steel Construction Division, Geilinger AG. Author of more than 40 papers on structural engineering.

Danny Jowenko – Proprietor, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V., a European demolition and construction company, with offices in the Netherlands. Founded 1980, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie is certified and holds permits to comply with the Dutch Explosives for Civil Use Act and the German Explosives Act. Jowenko's explosives engineers also hold the German Certificate of Qualifications and the European Certificate for Shotfiring issued by The European Federation of Explosive Engineers.

Telephone interview with Jeff Hill 2/22/07:

Jeff Hill: I was just wondering real quickly, I know you had commented on World Trade Center Building 7 before.

Danny Jowenko: Yes, that's right.

Jeff Hill: And I've come to my conclusions, too, that it couldn't have came down by fire.

Danny Jowenko: No, it -- absolutely not.

Jeff Hill: Are you still sticking by your comments where you say it must have been a controlled demolition?

Danny Jowenko: Absolutely.

Jeff Hill: Yes? So, you as being a controlled demolitions expert, you've looked at the building, you've looked at the video and you've determined with your expertise that --

Danny Jowenko: I looked at the drawings, the construction and it couldn't be done by fire. So, no, absolutely not.

Jeff Hill: OK, 'cause I was reading on the Internet, people were asking about you and they said, I wonder -- I heard something that Danny Jowenko retracted his statement of what he said earlier about World Trade Center 7 now saying that it came down by fire. I said, "There's no way that's true."

Danny Jowenko: No, no, no, absolutely not.

Jeff Hill: 'Cause if anybody was -- Like when I called Controlled Demolition here in North America, they tell me that , "Oh, it's possible it came down from fire" and this and that and stuff like that --.

Danny Jowenko: When the FEMA makes a report that it came down by fire, and you have to earn your money in the States as a controlled demolition company and you say, "No, it was a controlled demolition", you're gone. You know?

Jeff Hill: Yeah, exactly, you'll be in a lot of trouble if you say that, right?

Danny Jowenko: Of course, of course. That's the end of your -- the end of the story.

Commander Ted Muga, BS CE, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired Civil Engineer. Retired Naval aviator (Grumman E-1 and E-2). Retired Pan-Am commercial airline pilot (Boeing 707 and 727).

Joseph M. Phelps, MS CE, PE (ret) – Structural Dynamicist, Charter Member, Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE). Life member, ASCE. Former member of the Marine Technology Society, the American Society for Oceanography, and the Society of Photo-optical Instrumentation Engineers. Founder of Phelps/ABC, an engineering and industrial marketing firm. Former Commissioner of the Riverside County Flood Control and Water Conservation District.

J. Marx Ayres, BS ME, MS ME, PE – Mechanical Engineer with over 55 years experience. Mr. Ayres is a nationally recognized expert in building air conditioning design and analysis, energy conservation, thermal energy storage, commissioning of HVAC systems, and earthquake damage to building mechanical systems.

Mr. Ayres is a former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council. He also served on the State of California Department of Health Building Safety Board, where he was Chairman of the Mechanical/Electrical Subcommittee. Mr. Ayres has also served as a member of the Building Code Advisory committees for the City of Los Angeles, the California Building Standards Committee, and the International Conference of Building Officials.

Co-founder of one of the largest building engineering firms in Los Angeles, Mr. Ayres has been in responsible charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects, including high rise offices, commercial centers, hospitals and laboratories, hotels and residential buildings, universities and colleges, schools, theaters and entertainment centers, jails and correctional facilities, TV and sound studios, governmental buildings and industrial facilities.

Former engineering officer, U.S. Navy. Also formerly Research Assistant, Purdue University. Teaching Assistant, Mechanical Engineering, University of California, Berkeley. Guest Lecturer, University of Southern California School of Architecture. Guest Lecturer, UCLA School of Architecture and Urban Planning. Author of over 40 technical papers and contributing author to three books on building design.

Judy Wood, BS CE (Structural), MS Eng Mechanics, PhD Materials Eng Science – Assistant Professor, Mechanical Engineering, Clemson University 1999 - 2006. Postdoctoral research associate in the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics, Virginia Tech 1997 - 1999. Member of the Society for Experimental Mechanics (SEM). Co-founder SEM’s Biological Systems and Materials Division. Currently serves on the SEM Composite Materials Technical Division.

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Turbine engineering specialist. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Private pilot.

Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.

Crockett L. Grabbe, PhD – Research Scientist and Visiting Scholar, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Iowa 1980 - present. Former researcher at Naval Research Laboratory (NRL). Author of numerous scientific papers on the subjects of astrophysics and plasma behavior. Author of Space Weapons and the Strategic Defense Initiative (1991), Duck Soup for the Diehard Soul (2001). Editor of Plasma Waves and Instabilities (1986). Editor & co-author of Plasma Physics Applied (2006). Contributing author of Advances in Space Plasma Physics (1985), Trends in Geophysics Research 2 (1993), Recent Research Developments in Plasmas (2000), Power in Focus (2004).

William Rice, PE – Former Professor of Engineering at Vermont Technical College where he taught engineering materials, structures lab, and other building related courses. Registered Professional Civil Engineer who worked on structural steel and concrete buildings in Boston, New York, and Philadelphia.

Joanna Rankin, PhD – Professor of Physics and Astronomy, University of Vermont.

Steven Jones, PhD – Former Professor of Physics at Brigham Young University. Retired in October 2006 to devote more time to 9/11 research. Principal Investigator for experimental Muon-catalyzed fusion from 1982 to 1991 for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects. From 1990 to 1993, Jones researched fusion in condensed matter physics and deuterium, for the U.S. Research conducted at major laboratories in USA, Canada, United Kingdom and Japan. Chairperson of several international physics conferences. Author of over 40 papers published in peer-reviewed scientific journals.