I have a friend who was written a Speeding Ticket by a highway patrol cop....?

That means the Highway Patrol Officer followed your friend and paced him, by going the same speed as your friend and checking his spedometer.

Additionally, the Highway Patrol Officer was trying to give your friend a break by writing 65+, as going 20 mph over the speed limit can lead to an arrest for reckless driving in most states.

If he takes it to court, he should just pay it, and ask for traffic school.

The ticket will be dismissed upon completion of traffic school, and his insurance won't go up.

Cops and highway patrol officers don't normally carry radar guns in their cars on a regular basis. They will either "estimate" your speed and they're required to subtract 5mph from their estimate and put that speed down on your ticket (which is a horrible way to determine your speed because it's just a pure guess) or they will Pace you as what they did to your friend. (the words "estimate" and "pace" aren't the same thing) Pacing is basically when the cop is driving either directly behind the person or next to them and whatever speed the cop's speedometer says, that's the speed they will say you were going. That is more accurate than an estimate but of course, a radar gun will always be more accurate than both of those.

So, how fast was your friend really going? Anyway, I'm in a similar situation but my bro is in the police academy and his instructor is showing him how I can fight the ticket in court by saying the right things. I'm still learning about it but basically what you wanna do is confuse the cop with questions. If you confuse them enough, they won't know the answer, and then you can get away with it by showing that the cop doesn't know what he's talking about. There's also a formula you can use to calculate the distance you traveled by the speed you were going (something like that). I have to ask my bro the formula but if you figure it out and the numbers don't match the cop's numbers, you can prove him wrong.

Pace is just that....the cop drove along behind him at the same pace and that's how he came up with the speed. Not a very reliable method unless the cruiser is brand new with the original tires from the factory.

The speedometers are certified from the factory, but once a new set of tires is put on at about 25k mile or so, the certification for the cruiser's speedometer is gone, unless they pay the money to have the factory recert them.

It's a sketchy way to write a speed ticket.

The 65+ wording may be where your friend's speed of 75 falls in the statute. Most classify the ranges of speeding in increments. From 1-5 over, from 6-10 over, etc etc etc.

Pace mean he was following your friend & was able to clock the speed he was doing when he didn't get closer or farther from him (matching his speed to determine speed)

Also if the cop put 65 on the ticket & told him 75 he is giving him a huge break. What is written is the important speed not what he said to your friend.

Does your friend know if there was another cop in the car? If the cop was alone then he has no witness for that method... Pace just means he followed behind him and estimated your friend's speed. Your friend can fight that. If I were in that situation I would go to court and plead not guilty or plead not guilty by mail. He will likely get it dismissed. On the flip side if the cop had a partner as a witness and your friend loses, he will have court fees to pay in addition to the citation fine.

Your buddy is lucky. My speeding ticket was caught on radar (I believe, I didn't ask to see it) and I have no real chance of getting out of it. :P

Face it, unless he spends way more on the lawyer than he would on the speeding ticket, just tell him to pay the ticket.

i think thats when they time you form line to line to find the speed

its hard as hell to get out of speeding tickets becuase that money goes to the court systems so all those greedy bastards get to get it so i tihnk your frind should ask to have it plead down to failure to follow traffic sign or lower offence but if he fights it he will not only lose but will have to pay extra for court costs

I suggest paying the fine. It may be cheaper in the long run.

He should thanks his lucky stars that he didnt get one for 75. That would make it twenty over and in some states is an automatic suspension of your driver's license.

pacing means is when they catch up to you and match your speed, then they look at their speedometer and approximate you speed.