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I have been through 6 hurricanes, up to level 4 (one). My question is, why is there little or no lightning involved? The tropical storms that have gone through seem much more violent. You can use scientific terminology, I am a biologist and my late father was a forcaster for the Miami hurricane center (yeh, I should have asked him while he was still around).

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Condolances to your father and a big thank you to him for his Years of service to this country as a NWS Meteorologist.

    I am not a Meteorologist for the National Weather Service

    But I am sure you are awere of the NHC FAQ Page.

    http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/tcfaqHED.html

    This is one of the FAQ that is presented to them on a regular basis

    http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/G9.html

    Subject: G9) How much lightning occurs in tropical cyclones?

    Contributed by Chris Landsea

    Surprisingly, not much lightning occurs in the inner core (within about 100 km or 60 mi) of the tropical cyclone center. Only around a dozen or less cloud-to-ground strikes per hour occur around the eyewall of the storm, in strong contrast to an overland mid-latitude mesoscale convective complex which may be observed to have lightning flash rates of greater than 1000 per hour maintained for several hours.

    Hurricane Andrew's eyewall had less than 10 strikes per hour from the time it was over the Bahamas until after it made landfall along Louisiana, with several hours with no cloud-to-ground lightning at all (Molinari et al. 1994). However, lightning can be more common in the outer cores of the storms (beyond around 100 km or 60 mi) with flash rates on the order of 100s per hour.

    This lack of inner core lightning is due to the relative weak nature of the eyewall thunderstorms. Because of the lack of surface heating over the ocean ocean and the "warm core" nature of the tropical cyclones, there is less buoyancy available to support the updrafts. Weaker updrafts lack the super-cooled water (e.g. water with a temperature less than 0° C or 32° F) that is crucial in charging up a thunderstorm by the interaction of ice crystals in the presence of liquid water (Black and Hallett 1986). The more common outer core lightning occurs in conjunction with the presence of convectively-active rainbands (Samsury and Orville 1994).

    One of the exciting possibilities that recent lightning studies have suggested is that changes in the inner core strikes - though the number of strikes is usually quite low - may provide a useful forecast tool for intensification of tropical cyclones. Black (1975) suggested that bursts of inner core convection which are accompanied by increases in electrical activity may indicate that the tropical cyclone will soon commence a deepening in intensity. Analyses of Hurricanes Diana (1984), Florence (1988) and Andrew (1992), as well as an unnamed tropical storm in 1987 indicate that this is often true (Lyons and Keen 1994 and Molinari et al. 1994).

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