Why do some women think that being loud and obnoxious equals being "strong"?

The reason is because the think that if they are loud and obnoxious then people would think not to mess with them and that they don't show there feelings, to them signs of some certain feelings are weakness well atleast they think, and they have been hurt very deeply or have had something big happend good or bad, and they don't want anyone to see it because they also think that it is a sign of weakness,and they want to sometimes show that they are in control of there life,they want to grab people's attention becasue they crave attention or they're scared that they will be forgotten.Many of these could be the answer but you choose and nxt time you might want to ask them why.

I don't know if it means they are strong but it does seem to yield good results more often than not which therein lies the problem. I have worked with customers and the ones that are rude, obnoxious, and loud seem to get their way. The ones that are classy as you say get shoved around. But in some stores, you don't have to be confrontational. However in some other stores it's not that simple. For example, my husband and I got loud in a store because my stepdaughter needed to return a pair of jeans. She had the receipt. The jeans had never been worn. It had only been a week. They wouldn't let her return them. It would mess up inventory. The manager and employee were being rude and unaccommodating. They were wrong. I got a call from corporate saying that they should have taken the exchange and they apologized that we were unable to. Arguing and carrying on was not fruitful but it was frustrating to us. We didn't like how they treated her. She's 13 and they took her receipt. She initially went on her own.

There was another time at another store. We were right but the employees were being difficult.

I hear what you are saying but it comes down to training quite often. It's not always that customers are obnoxious. Sometimes yes, but not always.

edit: The most obnoxious people are the ones that have money because they are used to getting their way no matter what. Most of the time I'm pretty quiet and calm but if something doesn't make sense then I'm going to continue arguing the point. My stepdaughter should have been allowed to return the jeans. It was that simple. I could see if there was a problem with them but there wasn't. What would you do in this situation? The employee (not the manager) threatened us. The district manager told me that he was going to speak to her about it. He called me as well to apologize. Maybe it's not so much the loudness factor but the irrationality of some people. I've had to deal with it. Those are the people that irk me. I have nothing but empathy for the people who make rational arguments. I would not argue with them. I would say, I agree but unfortunately, there isn't anything I can do. The manager and the employee wouldn't say that. They were there is nothing you can do. You'll just have to buy another pair. Honestly, if I was the district manager, I would reamed them for their behavior. I told him everything.

Loud And Obnoxious

Being loud and obnoxious is a trait that is not dependent on any ideal system or interest group, it can occur anywhere for any reason. Though there does appear to be a stock character of the obnoxious, independent woman who has a persecution complex over a sociological phenomenon that hasn't existed for 25 years in the practical sense. However, being an asshole isn't a unique enough phenomenon to attribute to any particular ideal system or interest group. You're either obnoxious or you aren't.

I think it has to do with a huge misconception in this country that being loud is how you get your way, and if you get your way often, you must be pretty strong/powerful. Unfortunately, people look up to some of the loudest blowhards in history merely because they're making noise. I think a sensible, respectable showing of your strength and resolve tells a lot more about you. Strong women who are classy instead of bitchy are awesome and very sexy.

You can still be classy and strong without stomping your foot and screaming like a spoilt teenager.

Allot of women start throwing a tantrum when they dont get what they want. This is trashy, esp if they swear allot.

If you speak clearly and strongly without using swearwords you can still appear refined and classy. I do this all the time and get taken more seriously than those girls who behave like brats. If you get your point across quickly and confidently this is far more attractive and respected than someone who starts screaming bloody murder at any given moment. lol.

I hate trashy women, i feel sorry for them! lol

Alot of times people have other things on their minds. Like they feel opressed or they could be depressed to make them respond like this. I know that some people do need to learn to be calm and patient. People do look ignororant when they are loud and obnoxious. Talking takes listening to others as well. Some people don't get it though and continue on a path of chaotic rhetoric and in return they are not respected. I agree that getting your point across get across better with patience and speaking with finesse.

Yes, I agree with you. I have an aunt that thinks that by raising her voice, she's going to get people intimidated by her. But, she often comes off as an embarrassment and it only brings more people to hate her. My aunt doesn't like people to mess with her, so I think she's loud to make people think that she's not somebody to be messed around with.

I think that the only way we can show people that we are strong is we have to be classy and fight with our brain and words, rather than being loud and yelling at people. We can just show dominance on others by being smart with them. People will respect people with intelligence and class. But, nobody will respect someone with a nasty attitude.

Because, from a feminist standpoint, there is power in a woman's voice. Oftentimes, women feel that yelling is their only way of being heard....As one become more educated, one realizes that the it is not about how loud the voice is, but how intelligent the words coming out of the mouth are.....

I completely agree with you on that one. some women feel they have to have a leg up on men and be outspoken and opinionated (which is true to a certain extent) but some believe that they must take it to the next degree by showing that they don't take *** from anyone. As women, we do have to prove our abilities more than men do, but we cannot make fools of ourselves in the process. We have to be classy, sophisticated, determined, and voice our opinions WHEN NECESSARY; THAT is being a strong women.