Inspections for Registry?

I agree 110% with you...we need ALL breeds to be held to such strict standards. Of course, some people might not care about papers. Still others might be content to be able to prove a horse's lineage through its parents, and not care about registering those parents' offspring. (You see that a lot with dogs.) That being said, I still think it would cut down somewhat on the numbers of horses bred.

This is largely an American problem. There, I said it!

However, some people don't care about much in a paint or an appy (to use a couple of well-known examples) other than flashy color...and color requires no papers. Colored breeds are just as important as breeds not as easily recognizable by their appearance; however, they certainly do present their own sets of problems among the more unscrupulous. These people might not give a hoot about the horse's registration status so long as it had beeyooteeful blue eyes and "lots of chrome". This is the main beef I have with "color registries". Now, I love flashy horses as much as the next horse-crazy person, but if standards were (A LOT) stricter for breeding them, we'd have a lot less sub-par "pretty" horses wandering around the feedlots.

Interesting question.

For all the breed societies I've had any dealings with, the only requirements needed to register a foal as that breed is undeniable proof that both parents are of that breed. (Both parents must be registered.) Stallions have to be licensed, which ranges from an application along the lines of "please may my young colt be registered as a stallion, cheers", through a five-stage vetting (identical to a pre-purchase) to check for any problems, up to an inspection by 5 members of the breed society's council. A foal can go in the stud book if its dam is registered that breed and the sire is registered and licensed.

There needs to be more emphasis on the mare. There is a feeling amongst some breeders that mares are "carriers"; a poor quality yearling colt would be gelded and sold on, but a poor quality yearling filly is frequently kept and bred from. Some lines of some breeds are dreadful, and have some terrible reputations - but if you breed for quantity not quality that's what will happen. That's the kind of behaviour that can ruin a breed.

Challenging the mindset that mares with ugly heads and dodgy legs can be "improved on" by breeding to a half decent stallion is bigger than I can cope with. I've tried, and failed, to introduce compulsary mare inspections (on par with stallion gradings) within a breed society, and was shot down. I'll keep trying, though!

A note on solid paint horses; They do inspect some paints in order to get normal registry (those who have questionable markings), but the breeding stock is a registry of its own (there is limitations what can be done with a breeding stock).

I sort of look at registration as an insurance policy in the terms of breeding stocks; although they cannot be entered into most paint shows (although sections of the world show are dedicated just to solids), they can still have nice breeding and be nice pleasure horses. The main barn I buy my paints from (my breeding stocks) use the solid mares that have the nice build for breeding. They have come up with several reserve world champions and two world champions in the world paint show from solid mares. I would rather have a solid with the good build than a regular registry paint with bad build.

Registration in that sense is much a proof of lineage... think about all the breeding stocks and how many nice ones would end up in bad situations if they could not have proof on who the stud and the dam were. Trust me, the barns would not be buying up all the cheap solids if there was no guarantee on breeding.

Many of the breeding stock mares still carry the paint gene (2/3 of the solids usually). They can be bred to nice studs and make nice babies as long as they have the confirmation for it. One of my solid's dam is a solid, but so far she has produced two world champions (full siblings to my solid). If solids with that great breeding cannot get papers, that is one more horse that will possibly end up in the slaughter pen, so I think the papers are very necesary.

It really irritates me when I see horses being bred for color that have nice markings but a crooked stifle or some sort of major problem... not registering solids would only increase this problem.

Backyard breeders are still going to breed no matter what, they can get some unregistered stud from some auction to breed their mares to no matter what you do.

Warmbloods are registered according to European standards which are stricter than American ones. American registries only guarantee bloodlines, not quality. It's too bad because that creates a lot of worthless horses that end up neglected or run through a sale. I agree with you. Our standards for breeding horses should be like Europe's.

in case you're unlikely to coach or breed then you certainly are suited and you do not want a papered canines. to not be advise or impolite yet i think of that your husband basically needs one for prestige or bragging rights, like "Oh yeah, I also have a AKC registered bull canines". in case you undertake a canines (and there are rather some doggies obtainable that have been rescued too) then you certainly would be giving a canines a 2nd hazard at a stable and loving abode. it is going to likely be extra low priced too. i offered a papered and mini schnauzer one time and that i paid the fee to sign up her even though it ended up basically being a waste of money. i understand now that adopting a canines is the only thank you to flow because of the fact i'm giving a candy loving canines a 2nd hazard at a loving abode.

i agree with the other poster. unfortunatley the french are dismanteling their operation here in the usa (selle francais registry). so you need to go to their web site, and find out how to register your horse. they will not be holding inspections in this country anymore. you may wish to check out isr/oldenburg.org they accept other breeds into their registry as long as they meet the requirements. there inspection tour start july 26 and goes to september. hurry up, or you will miss them. you need to register now, so that you can have the foal inspected.