I know I asked this same question earlier, but the answers did not help, thought I would ask again?

Hi, JG.

The AOE model has had a lot of complaints on the recline positions not tilting far enough to prevent the child's head from flopping forward; the reason for many returns.

The advice (above) of placing a rolled up towel under the seat is what the manufacturer recommends. I seriously doubt placing a rolled towel under the seat will compromise safety, but I haven't seen any tests. If it works, awesome, if not, exchange the seat.

If you do return the seat, the Evenflow Triumph Elite might suit your preferences.

~Os

Your car seat should be rear facing and at a 45 degree angle. That angle will help. Is the car seat in the recyline position? If not use the recline position. Sometimes the level bars are not accurate since the seats cause different angles in the car. It also sounds like the harness straps may not be tight enough if she is hanging forward. you should have it tight enough that you can just slip your finger under the shoulder and belt. Also the plastic clip should be armpit level. Even though a firefighter put the seat in, was he a licensed technician? If not look for a local tech to help you out. Good luck.

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I've had my seat misinstalled once, and know of two others that had their seat misinstalled by certified technicians.

As your baby is 10 months and presumably has decent head control you want your seat reclined around 35 degrees. This can be hard to eyeball. If you are concerned get one of those things to measure angles (like this one, actually at $10 that a good deal http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.j... )

If the seat isn't reclined to at least 30 degrees place rolled up blanket/towels or pool noodles under to create the proper angle.

http://www.carseat.org/Technical/tech_update.htm#a...

Angle of recline, rear-facing

The back surface of a rear-facing CR should be between 30° and 45° from vertical, starting with the most reclined angle for a newborn and becoming more upright as the baby grows. This recommendation is a balance between crash protection and comfort. If the CR is too upright, the head could flop forward uncomfortably and possibly pinch off the airway, especially for a newborn. If the CR is too reclined during a frontal crash, the infant could slide toward the top of the restraint, exposing the head to injury, especially for the larger, heavier baby.

Each manufacturer determines an optimum back angle for its products and specifies a way, such as a level indicator, for the user to determine that angle. However, these indicators only work when the vehicle is level, so they can sometimes be misleading. The Federal standard allows the back of a rear-facing CR to rotate downward as much as 70° from vertical during the FMVSS 213 crash test, but this extreme result reflects the test conditions and would not represent good crash performance. To meet these test requirements, some restraint manufacturers may install their position indicators so the initial angle is too upright for a small infant. For these situations, installing the seat with the indicator outside the specified zone may be necessary, or one must obtain a different safety seat. The baby’s airway must not be compromised.

To set an appropriate back angle for the child, install the CR in the car and put the baby in the CR with the buttocks in the deepest part of the CR and the baby's back straight. Jostle the CR a bit, and, if the baby's head flops forward (while awake or asleep), it is necessary to increase the angle. For infant-only restraints, some bases can be adjusted if more recline is needed, or a detachable base can be removed and the shell alone reclined a little more. Otherwise, for these and for convertibles, insert a tightly rolled towel or sheet or a foam "noodle" under the toe-end of the CR to compensate for the slope of the vehicle seat. Increase the angle of recline just enough to keep the baby's head from flopping forward, but no more than 45° from vertical.

The American Academy of Pediatrics currently recommends that infants born at less than 37 weeks gestation be monitored in a semi-upright position prior to discharge to detect possible breathing, oxygenation level, and/or heart rhythm problems (AAP, 2006). If a baby needs to be more reclined than 45°, he must be tested similarly in a car bed to see if discharge is appropriate, and if so the car bed must be used for travel. There is also evidence that prolonged (over an hour) semi-upright positioning may lead to reduced oxygen saturation levels even among term infants. It is therefore recommended that very young infants not be left undisturbed in their rear-facing child restraints for long periods.

As the child grows, becomes heavier, and can hold his head erect, the angle can be decreased, making the restraint more upright, to provide better crash protection. For a sleeping baby, this angle should be at least 30° from vertical. In addition to improved comfort, keeping the back of the baby's head in contact with the CR provides better protection in a crash. In some vehicles, the back seat may be too small to accommodate a convertible CR that is reclined as far as 45° in the rear-facing position. For older babies, the CR may be used at a more upright angle to make it fit in the car, but a newborn may require a smaller infant-only restraint. (9/07)

we have the same seat i found that by putting the seat back ( some suv's and cars have seats that somewhat recline. it helped also keep a rolled up recieving blanket tolean babys head back and its more comfy. one thing they showed me at the wic office years ago is to put one of those swimming pool foam sticks under the front of the seat ( those tube things that look like a noodle and are made of colored foam) put one under the front of the seat and strap the seat in as tight as it will go!

this should help and the noodle thing is completely legal and safe.

GOOD LUCK, hope i helped!

There is no way to make it so your baby's head doesn't fall forwars. My daughter is 5 months old and has great neck strength, but when she falls asleep in the car seat her head falls forward. It bugs me but there is nothing I can do except pull over, push her head up then she falls right back asleep with her head plopped forward again. :( The piece that goes around her head was just for when she was newborn until she got neck control.

I found some seat to do that too. Its usually the seat not how its installed. When she falls asleep you can prop her head up with a small rolled up burbie. thats what worked for my kids.

Not sure about this brand of car seat, but with ours we rolled up a towel and stuck it under the base touching the back of the seat. This elevated it enough that her head wouldn't fall forward and it's still safe and very secure.

i think u should get another seat like those ones where it has a table too so at lease her body wont go forward as much or mayb get a smaller seat with seat belts that go cris cross on the front

i have a safe n sound guradian and the same thinghappns, i find that i try to sit her bum a bit further forward and keep trying to teach her to ilt her head to the side. GL