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gp4rts asked in Science & MathematicsPhysics · 1 decade ago

Please check my work--rolling ball?

I recently responded to this question http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=2... , and after two tries I think I have the right solution. Find it here http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1094/bowlingbal...

The reason I think there is a mistake is when initial and final energy of the ball are subtracted, that does not match the frictional energy. See this

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3005/bowlingbal...

Any ideas or suggestions welcome

Update:

If the link to the question does not work, find it here:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1930/questionxg...

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  • 1 decade ago
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    I don't think there are two forces on the ball at the point of contact as you indicate. I would think the only effective force acting on the ball is kinetic friction.

    Although the algebra follows through, I think the error of your reasoning is replacing a/r for α on the third line. I think this because, at that point in time, the ball is not rolling smoothly so a = αr does not apply. This would make it impossible to solve for a supposing there were two forces.

    Here is my solution:

    (I am assuming v0 is in the positive direction.)

    a)

    F(net) = ma

    - f(kinetic) = ma

    - μmg = ma

    a = - μg

    b)

    τ(net) = Iα

    Fr = [(2/5)mr^2]α

    μmgr = (2/5)mr^2α

    α = (5/2)μg/r

    I left out the sign b/c it really depends on the given orientation.

    c)

    v(center of mass) = ωr

    v(i) + at = (ω(i) + αt)r

    v0 - μgt = (5/2)μgt

    t = (2/7)v0/(μg)

    d)

    d = v(i)t + (1/2)at^2

    d = v0[(2/7)v0/(μg)] + (1/2)(- μg)[(2/7)v0/(μg)]^2

    d = (12/49)v0^2/(μg)

    e)

    v(f) = v(i) + at

    v = v0 +(- μg)[(2/7)v0/(μg)]

    v = (5/7)v0

    ---------------------

    KE(i) = (1/2)mv0^2

    KE(f) = (1/2)mv^2 + (1/2)Iω^2

    = (1/2)m[(5/7)v0]^2 + (1/2)[(2/5)mr^2][(5/7)v0/r]^2

    = (5/14)mv0^2

    ΔKE = - (1/7)mv0^2

    This loss in KE must be equal to the work done by friction plus the work done by the torque. That is

    ΔKE = W(friction) + W(torque)

    W(friction) = Fd = (μmg)[(12/49)v0^2/(μg)]

    = - (12/49)mv0^2

    Since energy was lost to the surroundings the work due to friction is negative work.

    W(torque) = τθ

    θ = ω(i)t + (1/2)αt^2 = (1/2)[(5/2)μg/r][(2/7)v0/(μg)]^2

    = (5/49)v0^2/(rμg)

    W(torque) = (μmgr)[(5/49)v0^2/(rμg)] = (5/49)mv0^2

    Since rotational kinetic energy was gained by the ball due to the torque, the work done by the torque is positive work.

    Check:

    ΔKE = W(friction) + W(torque)

    - (1/7)mv0^2 = - (12/49)mv0^2 + (5/49)mv0^2

  • 1 decade ago

    Sorry, kiddo. My eyes are too bad to read such tiny print. How can I enlarge it? I'd be happy to look at it for you.

    -Fred

    Source(s): professor of physics and mat
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