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did Michelle Obama quoted lines from Saul Alinsky's radical manifesto called Rules for Radicals monday night?

"The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be."

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    I wouldn't doubt it.

    You may be interested in reviewing the Goals of Communism at this point in the election cycle.

    Republicans - Free Enterprise and Individualism

    Democrats - Unionization, Socialism, Big Government Intervention (Big Brother)

    (YES YOU DID HEAR HILLARY SAY UNIONIZATION IN HER SPEECH!)

    As you read this list of 45 goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963. You should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out 45 years later.

     

    1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength. (LIBERALS PROTEST MILITARY ARMS AND EVEN OWNING A GUN)

     

    2. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. (DONE)

     

    3. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress. (ALWAYS BEING SIDE-STEPPED)

    4. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (1/3 of the UN delegates refer to terrorists as "freedom fighters").

    5. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office. (SO THEY CAN DUPLICATE OUR SECRETS)

     

    6. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. ("WHICH PARTY DO YOU THINK THEY CAPTURED-YEP, DEMOCRATIC PARTY")

     

    7. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights. (ACLU!)

     

    9. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks. (DONE - UNIONS) (TEACHERS ARE UNIONIZED AND THE WRITERS OF TEXTBOOKS ARE WRITTEN FOR THE TEACHERS BY UNION WRITERS.

     

    10. Gain control of all student newspapers.

     

    11. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    EXAMPLE: PROTESTS AT DNC, SAN FRANCISCO AND ON CAMPUS'

     

    12. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

     

    13. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures. (DONE - UNIONS)

      

    14. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. (ACLU)

     

    15. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. (HOLLYWOOD - UNION) (RECORDING ARTISTS - UNION) (PRINT MEDIA - UNION)

     

    16. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

     

    17. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

     

    18. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

     

    19. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

     

    20. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

     

    21. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

     

    22. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

      

    23. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

     

    24. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

     

    25. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. (THEY ARE TRYING TO BAN HOME SCHOOLING)

     

    26. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems. (DONE)

     

    27. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

     

    28. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

    I hope all who reads this heeds the warnings. The rest of the 45 Goals can be found at the link below, see for yourself.

    Republicans - Free Enterprise and Individualism

    Democrats - Unionization, Socialism, Big Government Intervention (Big Brother)

    (YES YOU DID HEAR HILLARY SAY UNIONIZATION IN HER SPEECH!)

    Source(s): The Communist Takeover of America - 45 Declared Goals http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm
  • 1 decade ago

    I don't need your link. I'm familiar with Saul Alinsky. Have you read that book, or any of his others? It's like Lenin and the Bolshevik revolution!

    Most Americans revile socialism, yet Barack Obama's poll numbers, surprisingly, remain competitive. Many people, including yours truly, can't support him because every time we try to do some research into his background, we reach a dead end shrouded in mystery and littered with unsavory characters. I hope Obama fans won't be offended that I simply want to do my own research and form my own opinions rather than depending on Obama's web site for "the truth."

    Obama seems to be a longtime disciple of the man you mention, Saul Alinsky, a man whose stated mission was to teach radicals to disguise their ideology.

    Alinsky couldn't be bothered with the all talk and no action behavior of liberals or liberalism. He said "A liberal is (someone) who puts his foot down firmly on thin air." He prefered a more militant, farther left approach "America was built by its radicals. The hope and future of America lies with its radicals." And so, "This is the job for today's radical--to fan the embers of hopelessness into a flame to fight. To say. . . let us change it together!" <==sound familiar?

    Obama worked for Alinsky's Chicago's Industrial Areas Foundation and the fact that Michelle is also making Alinsky statements further proves that they buy into the mantra.

    Even before I knew anything about Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers or employment in Alinsky's organization, I was certain he was far left of the Democratic Party. If John McCain was black and Obama was white, McCain could spend the next 70 days in Hawaii, laying in the sun, and still win by a landslide. McCain is closer to the middle, closer to traditional Democrats, than Obama will ever be.

    bfarl33:

    Guess I don't have to ask who you're voting for. lol

    I did not know Saul personally, but I'm sure he was charismatic.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I knew Saul Alinsky and trained at his school in Chicago. IMO, his philosophy that "the end justifies the means," was flawed because when he left, the local residents he helped were on their own to deal with the aftermath.

    However, he had balls and chutzpah, a marvellous sense of humour, and an uncanny ability to cut to the chase. He was a man beyond his time and the Establishment hated and feared him. I admired him. May he rest in peace.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Cool piece of scholarly investigation. Unfortunatley I don't care.

    She will make an amazing first lady.

    McCain has a LOT of explaining to do. He needs to help us understand why we should elect a Republican president after 8 years of Republican control nearly wrecked the place.

    Of course, maybe he has a decent plan. I wouldn't know it because he spent the summer bitching about how his opponent is more popular than he is.

    He's a BAD choice right now. His focus is on military, we need economy and energy, which we would have with Obama (and Biden brings in the national security)

    Obama/Biden '08

  • 1 decade ago

    OMG, dude. At least get your link right. See below.

    This is the weakest blog post I have ever read. "the world as it is...the world as it should be."? That's radical? Holy crap. I thought you were at least going to say that Michelle Obama called somebody whitey or called for violent insurrection.

    I'm not sure which is more lame: the original blog post or that Limbaugh bothered to actually talk about it. Y'all are grasping at straws now.

  • 1 decade ago

    Lol, you bet!

    The Obamas are radical Marxists and socialists. That is part of their appeal to the left wing nuts like Bill Ayers.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Who cares? I'm not voting for Michelle Obama, I'm voting for her husband.

  • 1 decade ago

    Yes. It is ingrained into their very nature.

  • 1 decade ago

    Probably, but your link doesn't work.

  • 1 decade ago

    You must have dreamed that. Your link doesn't work... why am I not surprised?

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