What are your thoughts on Operation Northwoods?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwoods

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http://www.smeggys.co.uk/operation_northwoods.php

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In response to a request for pretexts for military intervention by the Chief of Operations of the Cuba Project, Brig. Gen. Edward Lansdale, the document lists methods (with, in some cases, outlined plans) the authors believed would garner public and international support for U.S. military intervention in Cuba. These are staged attacks purporting to be of Cuban origin.

    1. Since it would seem desirable to use legitimate provocation as the basis for US military intervention in Cuba a cover and deception plan, to include requisite preliminary actions such as has been developed in response to Task 33 c, could be executed as an initial effort to provoke Cuban reactions. Harassment plus deceptive actions to convince the Cubans of imminent invasion would be emphasized. Our military posture throughout execution of the plan will allow a rapid change from exercise to intervention if Cuban response justifies.

    2. A series of well coordinated incidents will be planned to take place in and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done by hostile Cuban forces.

    a. Incidents to establish a credible attack (not in chronological order):

    (1) Start rumors (many). Use clandestine radio.

    (2) Land friendly Cubans in uniform "over-the-fence" to stage attack on base.

    (3) Capture Cuban (friendly) saboteurs inside the base.

    (4) Start riots near the base main gate (friendly Cubans).

    (5) Blow up ammunition inside the base; start fires.

    (6) Burn aircraft on air base (sabotage).

    (7) Lob mortar shells from outside of base into base. Some damage to installations.

    (8) Capture assault teams approaching from the sea or vicinity of Guantanamo City.

    (9) Capture militia group which storms the base.

    (10) Sabotage ship in harbor; large fires -- napthalene.

    (11) Sink ship near harbor entrance. Conduct funerals for mock-victims (may be in lieu of (10)).

    b. United States would respond by executing offensive operations to secure water and power supplies, destroying artillery and mortar emplacements which threaten the base.

    c. Commence large scale United States military operations.

    3. A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged in several forms:

    a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba.

    b. We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presence of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existent crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.

justgoodfolk · Accepted Answer

Exemplary of how far the national security apparatus and military intelligence community is willing to go.

However the way it's commonly used on the internet, as an indication or even proof 911 was an inside job is totally absurd in my view, the opposite is actually true. This plan was promptly rejected by the political authorities and those who proposed it fired immediately indicating this is not something that's widely accepted or routine but that the suggestion shocked the people in charge and they're not naive pacifists in any sense of the word.

EDIT So? They can still draw their own conclusions.
The conspiracy peddlers are some of the most cynical and deceitful groups currently operating in the United States.  The other side of the argument deserves to be heard as much as the co called "truth" seekers fear the truth.

Do you want them to draw their own conclusions or the one you want them to draw? If the first is the case how could presenting them with more information be anything but beneficial and helpful?

Dont Call Me Dude · Answer

You left out the possible hijacking of aircraft and flying them into U.S. office buildings (no, really!  It was suggested!) or blaming Cuba if John Glenn's spacecraft blew up on launch.

Standard U.S. intelligence agency-type provocations.

And people wonder why the Cubans don't trust the U.S.?

Apollo · Answer

O, come on this is very old hat stuff, the CIA was set up for this sort of thing, they have been doing this sort of thing for years around the world, so have the British SAS, and MI6.  They call them 'False flags'.

Anonymous · Answer

It bears too much of a resemblence to 9/11 for it to be a coincidence.

itsamini1 · Answer

It was a plan rejected by President Kennedy.

j _j_83221 · Answer

it just goes to show you that we cant trust the government....and it sounds a little too much like what happened on 9-11 hmmmmm

Anonymous · Answer

Luckioly we won't have to fight wars anymore now that Obama has declared world peace.

Anonymous · Answer

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT.........

CUBA BEING A GIGANTIC ATOMIC MISSILE BASE.......

FOR THE SOVIET UNION...........

BEING AIMED AT OUR COUNTRY......?

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