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Are conservatives sure they want to use the one Lincoln quote where he defends conservatism?
Some con used it with no source. I got curious and looked it up to see it in context.
Apparently Lincoln and his party was accused of being radical, revolutionary, destructive, and sectional (a Northern Party). To defend himself and his party, he said you guys call yourself CONSERVATIVE because you DEFEND SLAVERY. He said no, we're conservative because we plan on doing nothing about slavery.
Of Course, Lincoln and his "Radical Republican Party" did do something about slavery. They used the power of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to destroy a "state-rights" to own slaves.
1860 CONSERVATIVE STAND = PRO-SLAVERY
1860 RADICAL STAND = ANTI-SLAVERY
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``You claim that you are conservative; and we are not. We deny it. What is conservatism? Preserving the old against the new. And yet you are conservative in struggling for the new, and we are destructive in trying to maintain the old. Possibly you mean you are conservative in trying to maintain the existing institution of slavery. Very well; we are not trying to destroy it. The peace of society, and the structure of our government both require that we should let it alone, and we insist on letting it alone. If I might advise my Republican friends here, I would say to them, leave your Missouri neighbors alone. Have nothing whatever to do with their slaves.
Jack B,
Are you sure. Can you find the speech in which Lincoln said that? I always see alot of FALSE unreference quotes out there. This one turned out to be true, but was selectively quoted and not put in context.
eelfins,
Southern CONSERVATIVE "state-rights" Democrats supported slavery, while the Radical Republican Party (based in the northeast) was against it.
We know that. Have you taken a look at your party? Things have changed. Today's GOP is the party of south and "state-rights". Blacks and notherners have been moving towards the Dem Party ever since the 1964 presidential election.
Back then liberal Democrat LBJ supported civil rights and conservative Republican Barry Goldwater opposed them. That was the first year the South went Republican for president.
9 Answers
- imback_missmeLv 51 decade agoFavorite Answer
To the people of the slave-labor States he first addressed a few assuring words, in which he said; “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exist. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” He read a resolution of the Republican Convention that nominated him, which declared that the rights of the States, in order that they might control their own institutions, should be maintained inviolate, and denouncing as a high crime the invasion by an armed force of any State or Territory,” no matter under what pretext.” He reiterated these sentiments as his own; assured the people that “the prosperity, peace, and security of no section” were to be “in any wise endangered by the new incoming Administration.” And that every section of the Union should have equal protection.
- 1 decade ago
Lincoln was the only president to so divide the country that it resulted in civil war.
Are you thinking the civil war was worth it? Dream on. The slavery issue was introduced in the middle of the war to boost northern morale (make them think they are on the high ground.) The war started due to increasing federal power that favored the north.
He is the worst president in American history, so it is a bad move for any party to use any Lincoln quotes.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
So he was more concerned with preserving the union than ending slavery. We knew that already. At least he still wanted to end slavery, however, which the Democrats of his day did not.
- J PLv 71 decade ago
I am a conservative and let me just clear the record. I am against slavery.
These little debating points may be entertaining to you, but they're meaningless.
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- 1 decade ago
no but lincoln did say that we should be able to keep the fruits of our labor and that the government should not take it, i dont see Obama (or as the liberals call him the messiah or the next Lincoln) supporting Lincoln's views.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Lincoln was Republican because he was pro-business.
Back then, Republicans were progressive liberals (social).
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Lincoln also said that blacks cannot be considered equal to whites because they are too savage. Everyone seems to forget that one too.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
sure they would. selective quoting kicks ***.
