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Do you agree with this case against a bishop re church bells?
Phoenix bishop found guilty for 'unreasonably' loud bells
Every hour for the past year the bells ring at Cathedral of Christ the King in North Phoenix, but those bells could soon be silenced.
“I still can’t figure out what law I have broken, but I was found guilty today in court,” said Bishop Rick Painter.
Painter was convicted of two counts of creating “an unreasonably loud, disturbing and unnecessary noise.”
“We’re expressing our religion we glorify God by the bells,” he said.
The City of Phoenix sent this statement to ABC 15:
“The City of Phoenix Prosecutor's Office charged Rick Painter with 2 counts of a Phoenix City Code Violation of § 23-12 for creating "an unreasonably loud, disturbing and unnecessary noise." The listed dates of violation are March 16, 2008 and March 26, 2008. The charges were a result of neighborhood complaints of the church bells ringing every half hour on the March 16th date of violation and hourly on the March 26th date of violation.At all times, the neighbors complained the bells were ringing at a high volume. Though the complaints list a single date, we do that for legal reasons, but the neighbors testified the ringing was ongoing and continues to this day.”
In court today some neighbors said the bells are disturbing and keep them captive in their homes.
We tested the decibel levels of the chime on a sound level meter from Radio Shack.
We tested it from three different locations; across Greenway Road, across a smaller neighborhood street and in the church's parking lot.
Each time the levels came in lower than the traffic noise in the area.
Several times our meter indicated that it was “lo”, too low to even register on our device.
Some neighbors we talked to said they find the bells annoying, but others said they enjoy them.
“Don’t bother me at all. I look forward to hearing it. Sometimes I come out and sit on the porch just so I can hear it,” said one neighbor.
Bishop Painter wonders what’s next.
“They don’t like what I have preached about because it may not be politically correct and they sue for that?" he asked. "Where do we draw those lines?”
Painter will be sentenced June 3rd.
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So, is this against the church or against the noise. I have been following the comments and one in particular stands out. He said that as an athiest, he doesn't want to be subjected to church bells every hour during the day.
Love to get your input on this!
4 Answers
- smellyfoot ™Lv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
No. Pressing charges on a preacher for having church bells is just ridiculous. "Each time the levels came in lower than the traffic noise in the area." Obviously this is just some uber-political anti-religion wacko that wants to find a reason to complain about anything the church does. Personally, I like church bells....
- Anonymous5 years ago
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- MindlinkLv 51 decade ago
Painter has obviously violated a city bylaw and a civil law. For some, like migraine sufferers, the non-religious, people living in close proximity to the bells, and many others, this could be like Chinese water torture. The listeners may suffer loss of enjoyment of their property, lack of sleep (and therefore non-performance of their work and possibly ill health) due to the incessant ringing. What Painter is doing is indeed detrimental to the surrounding community, in my opinion and in the opinion of the court.
Dogs barking, leaf blowers, construction sounds, debt collectors' constant phone calls, etc. are all subjects of similar cases. Why not bells? They'd certainly drive me crazy!
"Musicfan" talks about traffic noise ... We all expect that in our daily lives and, somehow, our brains adjust to it being there. This is an unusual noise at certain times of the day, or night, so it causes annoyance for those who are subjected to it. Nope, I stand by what I said above.
- ?Lv 51 decade ago
The best thing to do is to have a community meeting about the matter and talk to the congragation or have it up for election in your community. I wish you the best of luck.