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maggieeld asked in PetsDogs · 1 decade ago

How Do You Get Into Breeding Mini Chinese Shar-Pei Dogs?

I have a mini Chinese Shar-Pei (Blue) dog. He's an AKC but I haven't gotten around to registering him, yet. He's 5 months-old. I am thinking about breeding him as a stud. I am wondering if (please do not send me to the AKC website) anyone has any experience with a stud dog? What are the normal stud fees for a mini Shar-Pei, what sort of stud agreement is made, how old do you start breeding, how do you mate the two dogs? Drop him off for a "play date?" I've researched & all the sites are SO long-winded, more like advertisements. Local breeders are "competitive" and are of NO help.

Update:

Actually, they ARE a reconized breed, you may read about them on the main AKC site as well as the Mini Shar-Pei Club site. Educated and intelligent answers only, please...

Update 2:

If the Shar-Pei was not a breed, then I obviously would not have the vet certificate that states that my dog is a "miniature" Shar-Pei. Further, I would not have the paper from AKC to register him. I even contacted AKC and was told that the Chinese Shar-Pei was a breed and that the minis (which is obviously short for miniature, if you idiots are going to play symantics) were also recognized in the breed. My gosh, all I did was ask a question and I received only one "normal" answer thus far... It's as though my little question evoked interest in every uneducated/DIY/I have way under zero life so I probably cook for my pet/fruitbasket on the planet. AGAIN, INTELLIGENT ANSWERS ONLY, PLEASE...

http://www.akc.org/

http://www.mspca.net/

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Oh my! Where to start?

    First of all, there is no such thing as a "mini Shar Pei". There is the Shar Pei. Period. One size.

    The first thing you need to do is register him. NO ONE with any brains is going to want to breed to an unregistered dog. Then you start entering him in dog shows. If he does well at the shows, you will know he is a worthy and quality representative of his breed and you can consider breeding him. If not, well, then forget it. Only the best representatives of the breed should reproduce in an effort to better the breed. Shar Peis have lots of health problems and someone who doesn't know the ins and outs of this situation should not be breeding.

    While you are showing him, you should be getting his health clearances. Hips, eyes, whatever Shar Peis are usually checked for.

    If your dog earns his championship and is a good example of a Shar Pei you will have owners of females contacting you.

    When you say local breeders are "competitive" and are of NO help, it makes me think that your dog is probably a pet quality dog that should not be bred and they are just trying to tell you this without being too blunt. That doesn't mean he's not a wonderful dog and you don't love him very much, but *only* the best quality dogs should reproduce.

    Standing a dog at stud is not a bed of roses. You have to board the females that come in, and they are sometimes quite a pain in the butt. Your time is not your own, you have to be ready at a moment's notice to pick up the female, breed the dogs, etc. For some reason, people seem to think that they can supplement their income by "pimping" their dog out -- sorry it doesn't work that way.

  • Anonymous
    4 years ago

    Shar Pei Mini

  • ?
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    Mini Shar Pei

  • JenVT
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Mini shar peis are poorly bred runts. There is no such beast. A shar pei is a shar pei and any attempts to make a miniature version is like trying to be dr. frankenstein. If you truly love shar peis then you will breed to the standard and not make mutants. Having a club web page that is essentially a fan site does not legitimize anything. I can see where Chinese Shar Peis are recognized by the AKC but I also see where the breed standard specifically states 18-20 inches at the shoulder. Anything out side of those parameters should not be used in a breeding program. period.

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  • 1 decade ago

    The Canadian & American Kennel Clubs register all shar pei as Shar Pei, not standard, not mini & not toy, just shar pei. Anyone wanting to breed shar pei should have a long time breeder research their pedigree for dogs that might have died of Amyloidosis. This is a very difficult breed & you should learn how to research a pedigree. I contact everyone I can locate on the 4 generation pedigree & ask them "what was your experience with this bloodline?" Your pei might be clear, carrier or affected for amyloidosis & there in NO test. You must know pedigrees.

    Source(s): I have been breeding shar pei on Vancouver Island in British Columbia since 1983.
  • NOT AT ALL hopefully, as there is no such recognised breed. It's just Shar Pei - one breed, one type. You will not be able to register the dog with the AKC as a "mini" Shar Pei because they are NOT recognised by any kennel club.

    Anyone selling you a "mini" Shar Pei is a crook and a backyard greeder.

    #

    Local breeders are of no help because they are reputable and this idea is not.

    ADDED: As others have said, show me the exact page on the AKC web site that gives the breed standard of a "MINI" Shar Pei - you can't can you?

    A vet certificate to say you have anything is of no value when you come to register your dog with a major Kennel Club, vets are vets they are not breeders or breed registries. I have Never heard of any vet giving a certificate to say a dog is a certain breed!

    I am sure you thought you were getting a recognised breed, but someone has grossly misinformed you, sorry.

    Also, sorry that you are apparently not getting the answers you want.

  • 1 decade ago

    There's no such thing as a "mini" Shar-Pei

    Show me on the AKC website where "minis" are recognized.. I only see ONE size of Peis. They are 18-20 inches at the whithers and weigh 45-60 pds.. if your dog is smaller than that, he is NOT a breeding dog, as he does NOT fit standard.

    Just because a group of idiots decides they want to miniaturize a breed, and develop a club, does NOT make it a recognized breed. Show me a LEGIT REGISTRY that recognizes that size.

    SHOW me on the AKC website where that particular size is recognized. Yes Chinese Shar Peis are recognized, but the breed standard only calls for ONE SIZE! There are NO "minis" listed on the site. What you have is a poorly bred shar-pei from some back yard breeder who has no concern for the proper breed standard.

    Just because there is a "breed club" does not make it legit. There are "clubs" for designer mongrels.. that doesnt mean they are a legit size or breed.

    Show me where AKC says they actually recognize that SIZE.

  • ?
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Don't breed your dog, he's a runt and shouldn't be bred for health reasons & most likely does not conform to his breed standard thus can't contribute positively to his breed... You were horribly misinformed, there is no such thing as 'miniature' Shar pei and you were scammed by a backyard breeder. If you do not wish to be labeled a backyard breeder neuter your dog and keep him as your pet. If you wish to be a real reputable breeder visit the Shar pei breed club and find a mentor who can teach you everything there is about breeding, showing, genetics, and ect. After you have gained enough knowledge/experience your mentor will help you choose your b*itch and start you off right with your breeding program.

  • Simple answer here.

    You DON'T.

    Anyone breeding/selling 'Mini' Shar Pei's are BACKYARD BREEDERS who only care about getting YOUR MONEY.

    They don't care about the health or happiness of the dogs or their owners.

    If YOU breed these dogs (there's NO SUCH THING as 'Mini' Shar Peis! They're RUNTS), you're no better than BYB you got him from.

    ADD:

    Of course the Shar Pei is a breed. But there are NO SUCH THINGS as 'real' mini Shar Peis. They're RUNTS.

    They're not recognized by the AKC. And, how would a vets certificate prove that your dog is a 'real' mini, or whatever?

  • A "mini" Shar Pei is contrary to the standard, and should not be bred at all.

    http://www.akc.org/breeds/chinese_shar_pei/index.c...

    "The height is 18 to 20 inches at the withers. The weight is 45 to 60 pounds."

    The AKC does NOT recognize a Miniature Chinese Shar Pei.

    http://www.akc.org/breeds/complete_breed_list.cfm

    Minis are NOT condoned by the Chinese Shar Pei Club of America

    "Although the CSPCA acknowledges that flowered (spotted), bear-coat, and mini or toy sized dogs can occasionally be produced by two standard Shar-Pei in any reputable breeding program, it should be emphasized that this organization is opposed to the purposeful breeding of any non-standard Shar-Pei in order to intentionally produce nonstandard dogs!"

    http://www.cspca.com/

    If you need to ask this question here it is a sign that you don't know anywhere near enough to be breeding.

    Please go do some serious research on responsible breeding.

    Start here:

    http://learntobreed.com/

    http://woodhavenlabs.com/breeding.html

    http://dogplay.com/breeding/index.html

    http://www.gomestic.com/Pets/So-You-Want-to-be-a-D...

    EDIT: >>>Actually, they ARE a reconized breed, you may read about them on the main AKC site <<<

    Please provide a link. I checked the list of recognized breeds, no MINIATURE peis. I even did a search of the site, not one reference to MINIATURE Shar Pei.

    EDIT: CHINESE SHAR PEI are recognized. Miniatures are not. Yes, you can register an UNDERSIZED Pei as a CSP, just as you can register faulty dogs of other breeds as well. My long-coated Basset Hound is registered as a Basset Hound (which she is) but it does not make Long-Coated Basset Hounds a breed, she is simply a faulty Basset Hound.

    EDIT: As said, there is no mention of a MINIATURE CSP on the AKC site.

    As for the Mini Shar Pei Club - Cockapoos have a club too, and they're not a breed either.

    http://www.cockapooclub.com/

    So do Labradoodles, and they're not a breed either.

    http://www.australianlabradoodleclub.us/

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