Do you really think Grunge killed hair metal?

No, hair metal just ran its course. Nothing last forever, no one type of music can stay on top indefinitely. Music tends to change as the social clime changes also..music reflects society and as society is ever changing, music can't help but change with it.

I loved my hair metal - still do. Now I'm not a Nirvana fan nor Pearl Jam fan but I love plenty of grunge bands and I didn't give up my previous musicals likes when they came along, I merely added them to the ever growing collection of my eclectic tastes.

Hair metal is looked down upon much like disco is in a way..the outfits were over the top in both, the music seemed cheesier than what came after it, so it's no wonder that in both cases, the next main musical genre to come along is said to have taken the flaming sword and driven it away.

Actually, hair metal bands killed hair metal bands. Grunge took advantage of the opportunity to present a new sound. Timing is everything! When the 80's metal scene started, it was Van Halen, Motley Crue, Iron Maiden, Def Leppard, Ozzy, AC/DC, Aerosmith, and the Scorpions. What happened after 1986, (Aside from Guns N Roses and Metallica), is all of these bands began to produce clones of themselves which killed the scene. (i.e. Extreme, Poison, White Lion, Winger, Warrant, Cinderella, Faster Pussycat, Kix, The Bulletboys, etc.) The hard rock/hair band scene thrived from 1980-1991. Grunge only lasted from 1991-1995 before they were finished. If anything, the hair band scene made much more of an impact musically for a longer time than grunge. Also, keep in mind that at the peak of the Grunge scene, there were still 80's bands that were killing Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains in sales. ( Van Halen, Aerosmith, Guns N Roses, Metallica are a few of them.) If anything, it is the 80's hair bands that should come back and take over the scene. Say what you want about their hair, makeup, and clothers, but when it came to the best guitar players and best drummers, they solely came out of the 80's.

Well first off, anyone that liked hair metal is probably easy manipulated. So if grunge came out and got popular, yes I do believe they would start listening to it and just leave the hair metal behind.

But seriously I don't think grunge killed any metal. A genre rising further in to the mainstream doesn't mean that one that's already there has to leave.

I definitely agree with you that hair metal was already dying. I mean, you can only make crappy cheesy songs for so long. Also styles come and go. It just so happens that hair metal was more a style than a music genre. So after it was cool for a while, it just fades away.

And you are one of the first people I've seen that actually know about the rock song and ballad formula. This is just another sign that hair metal was a huge steaming pile of ****. I'm sure you already know, but that formula was meant to attract the metal guys with the first single, and then to appeal to all the women with their cute little ballad. Hair metal is almost even more commercial than pop music.

Hey bro!

Good point!

I somewhat agree. No I don't think Grunge "Killed" Hail Metal I think Grunge took the Spot Light off Hair Metal. The sound was getting boring to the Mainstream and they wanted something Fresh especially the younger people who grew up with their older brothers and sisters that played the sh*t out of Hair Metal all day. They wanted something NEW something Alternative sounding. Then came Nirvana and the rest of the Seattle Music scene then BOOM the mass Grunge and Alternative movement. It was already happening in early 1990 that's when Alternative really started coming up from the underground so it was happening before 1992. I remember when Alice in Chains Facelift came out people started taking in interest in that album in 1991 before Nevermind came out. So it started moving in 1990 it was just Nirvana pushed it over the edge.

Hair Metal never died tho it was just NO LONGER mainstream but it still lurked in the shadows and some bands came back after the whole Grunge trend subsided so did Underground Metal and Death Metal

Guns N Roses was the first sign hard rock was back, AC/DC and Van Halen continued to sell well in the late 1980s. People were already sick of glam metal.

Then, desperately trying to hold onto sagging sales, the hair glam bands turned to power ballads. Think about it- most of the hair band songs now on classic rock are dreck power ballads like "House of Pain", "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" and "Home Sweet Home."

Grunge didn't kill it since I've never accepted that label anyway. It sounded more like classic rock of the early to mid 70s. "Spoonman" could have been done by Bad Company and "Black Hole Sun" could have been Pink Floyd.

Rock endures as the fads come and go.

Hear that, scene kids?

Well in my opinion, I believe what Grunge did is took it out of the mainstream and basically kill its popularity and preference. But the main cause of death was bands getting worse (for me they were bad to begin with) and the fan base getting older, liking more complex music. And yes, I agree with you.

Grunge helped but for the most part hair metal killed hair metal it was a phase.

I think you hit the nail on the head. That whole scene had really run it's course, to the point of becoming a parody of itself. In reality, the masses were ready for a change, and that change could have come from anywhere.

I understand that it was already dying, but grunge did kinda finish it off, but it was a bit like killing a wounded soldier.

It seemed like Nirvana killed hair metal.