Why are we so afraid of allowing the Government to have a public option?

we have a group of people who think it's great, even

imperative, for the federal government to snoop on our phone calls,

e-mail and library records, to deploy a private militia accountable to

no one (Blackwater, or whatever it calls itself now), to give the

president "unitary" powers during a state of perpetual war, to hold

people under arrest indefinitely without charge and torture them in

undisclosed locations, to search without a warrant (using so-called

national security letters) and to disseminate internal propaganda, but

bad, even evil, for the federal government to manage health care,

because that might give it too much power, which it would abuse.

My government can detain me indefinitely without a warrant and turn

me over to Blackwater to be tortured, and lie to my family about where

I am, but a federal health care program - now that is verging on

totalitarianism.

If you have a public option. It soon wouldn't be. The government would cheapen the prices. In competition towards the private companies. Attracting more individuals their way.

Wouldn't you go for the cheaper care?

After all the private sources go out of business. The government would then take control of health care all together. Setting their own regulations. (You need to understand the long term). Not just the liberal short term crap.

Plus... Don't we already have a government option? Called medicare / medicaid?

What we need to do. Is fix what we have. NOT change it all together.

We already have the number one health care in the world. A huge reason why people from other nations. Come to the United States. Why would you want to change that?

Most major doctors seems to be against it as well. Why would you oppose those associated with medical care. When most of them say. That a more government run health care system. Would be worse of the American public?

Do me a favor. Ask your Native American friends. Who live on reservations. On how their government care is doing for them. Get back to me after you have received their answer.

On July 5 1948, when England started their program of government run health care, they thought they were going to be the "envy of the world". They didn't intend for their health care system to be what it has become today.

From here on out I'll be calling the National Health Services (NHS), because that's what they're called in England.

The NHS from 1948-1969

----Hospital Services had 14 Reginal Hospital Boards that were created in England & Wales to administer the majority of hospital services. Beneath these were 400 Hospital Management Committees which administered hospitals. Teaching hospitals had different arrangements and were organized under Boards of Governors.

----Primary Care were General Practioners were independent contractors (they were not salaried emplyees) and would be paid for each person on their list. Dentist, opticians and pharmacists also generally provided servises as independent contractors. Executive Councils were fourmed and admisistered contracts and payments to the contractor professions as well as maintaining lists of local practitioners and dealing with patients.

----Community Services included Maternity and Child Welfare clinics, health visitors, midwives, health education, vaccination & immunization and ambulance servises together with environmental health services were the responsibility of local authorities. This was a continuation of the role local government had held under the Poor Law.

By 1956, the system was stretched financially and this resulted in a Royal Commission on doctors' pay being set up in February 1957.

In 1997, England spent 1billion of unnecessary $$ on red tape. This is 2009, what would that 1billion come to now?

Medical training under the government was so unsuccessful that the Secretary of State for Health was forced to apologize publicly.

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Now then, as you can see from everything above. Their system, from the start, has been completely overrun and mismanaged by the government.

The following was taken from, Kailash Chand, who has worked for the NHS for the last 25 years. I found this on either PALS (Patient Advice and Liaison Services) in the UK, or PA (Patients Association), which can be found at www.patients-association.com, also in the UK.

"I have worked for NHS for the last 25 years and can tell you what's wrong with the system, why spend millions on consultancy firms like McKinsey? Cut out the waste and inefficiency of hiring expensive management consultants to try to solve the ills of the NHS.

The NHS has spend (wasted) 500million on management consultants in the last few years. The best advice of all [is] end the ludicrous, divisive, expensive experiment of the market in healthcare in England...Never has there been a better time to abandon the wasteful bureaucracy of the market. Never has there been a better time to ensure that we use scarce public money for quality healthcare, not for profits for shareholders. The proportion of the 100billion NHS budget spent on administration has risen by more than 10% since the introduction of market reforms to cover the additional and often duplicitous costs of contracts, billing, pricing and invoicing. The removal of this failing "market" and its inherent bureaucracy would save an estimated 10billion annually."

Since 1998, managers have increased by 78%, while doctors have decreased by 46%, and nurses have decreased by 28%.

We must have a car liability insurance or money in escrow, (in TN), but we do not have to have a house insurance.

Understand that people are not against the heath insurance, they are against the BIG government.

Just think, can you argue with city hall? No.

Cuba and Mexico have free health, why are the Mexicans here in our hospitals and emergency room?

Simply put, Republicans want to make sure THEY pass a Health Care bill, not Obama. They will do everything to make sure it fails.

Obama has bent over backwards to try to work with them, but they don't want to, then continue to disrespect him. It's time to just pass a Health Care bill without the help of the Republicans...

...and this time, WITH the Public Option...and no, I am paying for my Health Care through UHC, not with Medicaid. That's to those who are stereotyping me because I'm Black...

Yeah, great points. The reasons we have this absurd health care system with a dozen different programs, which makes no real sense when you think about it, will mystify me forever.

Fear seems to be all some people know. Ignorance certainly seems to be one reason.

I am reminded of a something I once read, when information is plentiful, facts are scarce.

lol I didn't read it but I know the gist of it. the fact is people don't want it because the media and politicans say it is bad. when infact it isn't

politicians say it is bad because they are bribed to do so.

usa is number 37 behind COSTA RICCA and MOROCCO kind of funny that we pride our selves being number 1 but are pathetic. guess who is number 1?

france with socialized medicine

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

or perhaps this one for you showing that insurance is all about business and profit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L50shyUoQU

(ignore the political slander at the end)

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/health-care-refor...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/health-care-refor...

or maybe you guys think its just alright to let ME die? how about that one for you. I am 19 I have brain tumors and the government programs and insurance left me to die (besides one which wanted 13,200 a year)

and I need another brain surgery now. anyone got 100,000 to spare (my guess anyway)

You are my idol lol.

& then they say that the US Military is the best in the world.

I guess we are afraid b/c the Corporations say we should be.

Because it will put private insurance companies out of business.

Gov workers are generally lazy people! What if you went to a Hospital of all Gov workers and they all called in sick..what then!