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Does anyone else feel the ARMY is just as responsible for the Ft. Hood attack as is Dr. Hasan?
People, this man begged time after time to get out, and he was always denied! What he did was wrong no doubt- he snapped, not only was he kept in active duty, but told he was going to go overseas to a war he morally could not support. Kinda like adding gas to the fire! Why is no one looking at his commanding officers, the people that followed his decline , this is not 100% his fault- it is the fault of the military who did not listen to his pleas to quit, or warning signs that this man was ready to pay the ultimate price standing up for what he believed in. The Army knew, yet did nothing to stop this attack! Does anyone else think this way or am I alone here. It is SO easy to say "kill this traitor- he murdered and hurt many" but there is a bigger picture!
sorry about the typos , was typing on my phone.
ps, YES, I agree he should be held accountable for his actions, and he will be. He did formally ask to get out since 2001! The Qu'ran states it is against Allah to kill ones brother in faith, just as the bible says thou shall not kill. Sad facts are, many knew that Dr. Husan was not in the mindset to serve his counry at this time- and they promoted him, ignored warning signs, contacts he made with Islamic extremists- AND had the b*lls to tell him he was being deployed! As, my grandfather (a military lifer how as at perl harbor when it was bombed) would say, someone's gonna catch hell for this, I just don't think Dr. Husan should catch ALL the hell, the people he begged to quit his service duty, and denied him should share the blame! Thanks to the great people who actually are able to understand my point ( I am actually surprised that so many of these responses are positive)and not sling anti-muslum bs. This is a serious issue and needs to be addressed!
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- LadyBLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
Dr. Hasan is ULTIMATELY responsible for his actions.
The Army KNEW about this troubled man and did nothing.
There's plenty of blame to go around.
But is it BLAME we're after or COMPREHENSION?
If we try to comprehend what set him off, perhaps we can prevent it from happening again.
- 1 decade ago
There may be a bigger picture, and he think he should've been prosecuted before the shooting for contacting Al quaida and advocating violence. But how can you say it's the Army's fault though!? Do you know how many people have served/are serving in the military, compared to how many of them wind up going on shooting rampages against there own men!? The Army isn't something you just join, and then say "oh I've had enough, I quit." It's a gov't contract you can't break. But he could've refused to go, deserted or whatever, but instead this U.S. Army officer murdered other soldiers that he was supposed to counsel and help. There is no justification whatsoever for what this monster did, and I'm sure there will be a special place in Hell for him.
- RubymLv 71 decade ago
Not just as guilty, no; but they did miss a lot of warning signs. WIth all the people who have been in and out of the war, and watching for Post Traumatic Stress and things, I guess an unhappy shrink who had never been over there, just went in under their radar. And they might have felt if they zeroed in on a Muslim who seemed unhappy that they were targeting him because of his religion, something he already apparently felt was happening. But ironically he was treating soldiers coming back with a lot of war related stress and he could have actually learned to mimic some of it for some kind of insanity plea, although I doubt he thought he would live.
He apparently was very unhappy, but what some stories about him have reminded me of, and I hope people understand I'm not making light of this or making fun; but some of the things reminded me of the Klinger character on 'MASH', who tried for years to get out of the military by wearing women's clothes and everybody just laughed him off. They might have just thought another unhappy soldier, even without the draft maybe a lot of soldiers start rethinking their idea of joining if they are heading for a combat zone.
As I said on another question, I don't think we can excuse or blame his Islamic faith for this. He felt picked on because he was a Muslim, maybe in the climate today, he was; and may have been involved in some radical Islamic ideas, maybe not. Maybe he thought it was a good excuse since people already did not like him for being Muslim. But he is no different from the Columbine killers who said 'Jocks' were picking on them, or other workplace or domestic murders where the killer has had some insult, slight, or something done against them and they want 'justice', even if what they do is so far from what was done to them.
And also, there were Japanese Americans in WWII, there were thousands and thousands of German Americans in WWI and WWII; there were Asian Americans in Vietnam. He is certainly not the first soldier who would be in a war against his family's nationality, ethnic group or religion. It has gone on with all Wars Americans have been in, especially since WWI.
But he was responsible. The Military can't keep track of every single soldier and know what they are thinking at all times, but they do have to be careful from now on.
- ?Lv 45 years ago
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- shafterLv 61 decade ago
Yes I agree to a certain extent that his commanding officers seemed to be aware of his discontent and should have acted sooner and I hope the ensuing investigation will find out why not. Did he formally put in for any transfer? or just gripe.
However Hasan was the shooter and he holds full responsibility for his actions and I hope they do not deem him mentally ill. He planned and executed this act as a professional. He therefore is a complete traitor and should pay the ultimate price.
Why did he join the Army??????
- CCLv 71 decade ago
Spoken like a true appeaser. Find fault with everyone/everything else except the murderer. This person joined the military AFTER 9/11 when we knew who the murdering terrorists were-muslim terrorists. So no the Army is not at fault-GI Joe muslim joined knowing he would come up against his kind in this conflict.
- Mujer AltaLv 71 decade ago
From what I've heard in the last few days, it seems the Army solved their problem with Hasan the same way the Catholic church solved their problem of priests accused of molesting children: instead of dealing with him, they moved him to a new post.
- 1 decade ago
So if your question makes me mad and go out and kill people are you responsible for my actions? The only person responsibile for your actions is yourself. There is this thing called self control and we all have to use it every now and then. He could have gone to the military and said I want to kill everyone at this base because of reason X, Y, and Z instead of going out and murdering people.
- lenghartkLv 71 decade ago
No, These murders were premediated and planned he could have stopped at any moment.