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Should the UFC implement Pride-esque yellow cards?
In Pride if a fighter failed to initiate any offensive attack, fled from the opponent, tied up the arms and legs of an opponent and deliberately stalled, or made no attempt to finish or at least damage their opponent, they were issued a yellow card and immediately 10% of their purse was taken away.
If the UFC started issuing yellow cards I don't think we'd see near as many close/poor decisions.
Take a look at Couture vs. Vera. Couture stalled that entire fight, simply pinning Vera against the cage. If it were Pride, boom, yellow card, 10% of your purse gone. Three warnings and you're disqualified. Things would probably have went the other way. Stalling by hugging a guy against the ropes, or pulling the ol' lay and pray is no way to win a fight.
Then look at Shogun vs. Machida. Shogun had to chase Machida down the entire fight. I realize that Machida's style is to remain elusive and difficult to hit, but after a while it just looks like he's afraid to engage and it makes for a boring fight.
It seems all too common these days that fighters simply find a way to beat the system and get the W. as opposed to actually WINNING the fight. You gotta believe yellow cards would go a long way in solving the problem.
Appreciate the comments but it wouldn't be telling fighters to "F" strategy at all. It would be telling the fights that they can't pin a guy against a cage and do nothing and win fights. It happens all too often now that a fighter smothers another on the ground, doing nothing, and walks away with the win. (See Roy Nelson vs. Kimbo Slice.) Or a fighter retreats the entire fight, landing two or three glancing counter shots, and walks away victorious. As a fighter myself I feel I can say this, if you're going to step into the cage, FIGHT. If you need to lay and pray, or pin a guy against the cage, or run away the entire time, you have no business in the Octagon.
My point isn't to have every fight turn into a bloodbath, but to discourage those who would abuse the scoring system to walk away with a cheap decision.
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- callsignfuzzyLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
It's not the UFC's call. They don't write the rules, the Athletic Commissions do.
I'd like to see it, but there are a few problems with it, most notably the subjectivity. For example, you saw Couture and Nelson stalling; I saw them controlling the fight and capitalizing on their positions without taking unnecessary risks. I also don't agree that Machida was stalling. What he was doing is a long way from what, say, Kalib Starnes was doing in his fight with Nate Quarry.
The card system also works best with Pride's system of scoring. Instead of the ten-point "must" system that goes round by round, they scored the whole fight. The criteria was different, too, with Pride valuing attempts to finish the fight; the current system in the US values effective striking, effective grappling, aggression, and cage/ring control, which are all very subjective. But if you have good takedowns and top control, you score high in both effective grappling and cage/ring control, and probably aggression up to a point for initiating the takedown.
I think the judging criteria has to change, but I can't hold it against fighters for fulfilling the current criteria. It's a bit like hating football teams for punting on the Fourth Down.
- 1 decade ago
Hell no. This is basically telling the fighters "F**k strategy if you don't get in there and fight your going to be penalized". I'm sure the more blood thirsty fans who don't know anything about MMA and just want to see a KO would love this. It would be like telling an NFL team they can't punt on 4th down because its boring. Its all part of the sport. If the guy being held down can't get out of "the ol' lay and pray" why should he be rewarded with a possible win? Pride used this as a way to create more action in fights. More action equals more fans. This would be a horrible idea.
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