if Google leaves China, who loses more?

If a horse flicks his tail at a fly, then it is a crisis for the fly, not the horse. Google is merely a fly on the buttocks of China.

Google has been surprisingly unsuccessful in China. Google failed to generate the revenue, market share, and profit that it originally anticipated. Google entered the Chinese market with great fanfare several years ago boasting a new Chinese language search engine. The only problem was that it consistently returned inaccuarate results compared to home-grown Chinese search services, such as Baidu. Google has failed to capture significant Chinese business in search, video sharing, news, and all of its categories.

Google is not comfortable with its own failure, so it decided upon deceit to explain its impending departure from China. Everyone has heard Google's story of alleged hacker attacks originating in China and Google's sudden refusal to censor its search results. There are key questions not being asked by western media in covering this story, such as:

* Exactly who in China is Google accusing of hacking? There are 1.3 billion people in China, so is Google accusing all of them or are there specific persons?

* Hackers often disguise their whereabouts and true identity through "IP spoofing", a process of making it appear that an attack's location is someplace other than its true origin. A person in New York might spoof a Los Angeles or Beijing IP address with equal ease. Therefore, it is impossible for Google to know for certain that any attacks really came from China.

* Hacker attacks are a daily occurance across the world. Thousands (millions?) of attacks happen annually and originate in every country around the globe. If Google is stopping business in China over a hacker attack, then why not stop doing business in every country?

* Google says that it will no longer obey Chinese Internet censorship laws. Google is effectively saying that it wants to make pornography available through its search engine. Is that the right attitude for Google to express when many Internet users are kids?

Google's announced plan is to close its China offices and Chinese-based servers. However, Google apparently still plans to host the same Chinese language content from non-Chinese locations. Google plans to have their cake and eat it too.

If Google does not respect the law of China, then it is best for it to leave. Google can operate more effectively in a less lawful country such as the United States.

It depends.

China has the chance of losing respect from international corporations.

Google has the chance of losing future profits. But of course China isn't the only country in the world! Google could expand into India as well, which btw will have a population bigger than China's in another decade or two, South America, and Africa (it's rising, and has a billion people too). Also continue business here in America & Europe.

John: Google's stock price is over $500 dollars. It's going nowhere but up. China only makes up 5% of Google's sales, so it won't do much damage. Baidu can have China. Hell I bet the Chinese gov't prefers Baidu cause they will actually listen to them and let them censure their search engine. Google exiting China won't mean its dismiss. Like I said above, China is ONE nation in a world w/ over 150 countries. Google will survive.

This is a free market where business decision prevails. Say if GM or Toyota leaves China, who's losing the business? Google's case is different, it has just been complained by the Authors' Association for prirating Mainland's novels and articles without consent and likely facing a huge fine. Its pulling out of China means it's running away from the heavy fine payment which indeed a clever decision. The only losers are perhaps the couple thousand foreigners or students living in the Mainland relying on Google for information.

I love the BS how Google all of sudden cares about the censorship and the people of China. Google was being cyber attacked by China! That is why they are thinking of pulling out. Security breaches into Google will look bad for the company. I dont want to hear the BS about Google "doing the right thing"

Anyways, Google will lose more. Baidu is the "Chinese Google" and it works just as good. Don't believe me? Watch Google's stock price drop and Baidu's stock price skyrocket

Of course Google will lose more.

Thank you for posting this question as I can attack the USA.

Its well known that China does not like foreign businesses and it will go out of its way to blacken their name, specially with google.cn

Not that long ago China's state run TV aired a fake interview with a so-called normal member of the public who criticised google.cn for allowing porn on its search engine.

In the end it turned out that the person being interviews was an intern working at CCTV and that Baidu search would throw up just the same using the same keywords.

http://chinadigitaltimes.net//2009/06/regulators-t...

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/200906b.brief.htm#016

In fact Baidu pays CCTV a healthy pay check.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2009/05/08/baid...

Google is right not to take rubbish like this any more. It should return to a more lawful country where any criminal actively against such companies would be fully investigated.

How are they going to lose Google? And Why?

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The Chinese PEOPLE lose.......One more blow for freedom of speech and access to information.

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