Is the Trinity a Bible teaching...?

Yes, It Is, with Rock Hard Solid Evidence that Blast Those who oppose it.

God is a trinity of persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is not the same person as the Son; the Son is not the same person as the Holy Spirit; and the Holy Spirit is not the same person as Father. They are not three gods and not three beings. They are three distinct persons; yet, they are all the one God. Each has a will, can speak, can love, etc., and these are demonstrations of personhood. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God. (

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What is the Trinity?

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God as a Trinity

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Another Look at the Trinity

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Is the Trinity possible?

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The word Trinity is not in the Bible

Some critics of the Trinity doctrine claim that since the word "trinity" is not found in the Bible it isn't true. Furthermore, some assert that if God wanted us to believe in the Trinity He would have stated the doctrine clearly.

First of all, it is illogical to claim that since the word "Trinity" is not found in the Bible that its concept is not taught therein. This kind of objection usually demonstrates a prejudice against the teaching of the Trinity. Instead, the person should look to God's word to see if it is taught or not.

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The Trinity makes no sense. It isn't logical.

Muslims often state that the Trinity doctrine lacks both common sense and logic. Additionally, they sometimes accuse the Christians of being polytheists by saying that the Trinity teaches three gods. Other times they state that it is illogical for three gods to be one god and for that reason, the Trinity can't be true. Their objections need to be addressed. But, before we do, we need to understand what the Trinity is and what it is not.

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Jesus' Two Natures: God and Man

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The word Trinity is not in the Bible

Some critics of the Trinity doctrine claim that since the word "trinity" is not found in the Bible it isn't true. Furthermore, some assert that if God wanted us to believe in the Trinity He would have stated the doctrine clearly.

First of all, it is illogical to claim that since the word "Trinity" is not found in the Bible that its concept is not taught therein. This kind of objection usually demonstrates a prejudice against the teaching of the Trinity. Instead, the person should look to God's word to see if it is taught or not.

Second, there are many biblical concepts that people believe in that don't have a specific word describing them used in the Bible. For example, the word "bible" is not found in the Bible, but we use it anyway to describe the Bible. Likewise, "omniscience" which means "all-knowing," "omnipotence" which means "all-powerful," and "omnipresence" which means "present everywhere," are words not found in the Bible either, but we use them to describe the attributes of God. We don't have to see a specific word in the Bible in order for the concept it describes to be true.

Following are other words that the Bible does not use but the concepts are mentioned:

Atheism is the teaching that there is no God. "The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God'" (Psalm 14:1).

Divinity which means divine quality or godlike character. Yet, we speak of the godlike quality of the Lord God. See Psalm 139.

Incarnation which means the word (God) who became flesh. Yet, this is definitely taught in the Bible (John 1:1,14).

Monotheism is the teaching that there is only one God (Isaiah 43:10; 44:8).

Rapture is the teaching that the Christians who are alive when Jesus returns will be caught up to meet Him in the air (1 Thess. 4:16-18).

So, to say that the Trinity isn't true because the word isn't in the Bible is an invalid argument. Furthermore, to say that if God wanted us to believe in the Trinity He would have clearly taught it in scripture, is also an invalid argument. Something does not have to be clearly formulated in the Bible to be valid. Not all things taught in the Bible are perfectly clear. Take a look at the book of Revelation. It contains many things that are cryptic that must be interpreted after examining all of the Bible. Even then, there are disagreements as to what some things mean. Yet, we know that the truths there are true whether or not we discover them.

Nevertheless, there are scriptures that demonstrate a Trinitarian aspect.

Matt. 28:19, Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

2 Cor. 13:14, The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.

Eph. 4:4-7, There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.

Jude 20-21, "But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith; praying in the Holy Spirit; 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life."

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No. I John 5:7 does not say "three persons." The Trinity is the idea that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons, each being God, each co-equal and co-eternal with the others. It is actually three Gods pretending to be one. If the Father sends the Holy Spirit, then that makes the Father superior to the Holy Spirit.

The true Bible doctrine is actually quite simple. There is one God, and that One can make himself known to us in various ways. The Father is who God is; the Holy Spirit is what God is. Jesus is the one person in whom dwells the fulness of deity; Colossians 2:9-10. At the baptism of Jesus, you do not see three persons; you ehar a voice (does God have to be a "person" to speak? No.). You see a form like a dove; is the Holy Spirit totally contained in that dove? No; impossible. The Spirit of God was never at any time confined to one physical location.

No & no.

God is a Spirit (John 4:24) and therefore invisible to man (John 1:18; I Timothy 6:16). He is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent (Psalm 139; Revelation 19:6). In the Old Testament, God manifested Himself many times in visible ways (Genesis 18:1; Exodus 33:22-23). These temporary, visible manifestations are called theophanies. In the New Testament, God manifested Himself in human flesh as Jesus Christ, the Son of God (John 1:1, 14; I Timothy 3:16).

In the Old Testament God revealed Himself by the name Jehovah or Yahweh, which means the Self Existing One or the Eternal One.

The New Testament often describes the one God as the Father. This title emphasizes His role as Creator and Father of all (Malachi 2:10), as Father of the born-again believers (Romans 8:14-16), and as Father of the only begotten Son (John 3:16).

In addition, the Bible uses the term Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit to refer to the one God. This describes what God is and emphasizes God in activity (Genesis 1:2), particularly in activity related to man such as regenerating, baptizing, filling, and anointing (Acts 1:4-8; 2:1-4).

The Bible also uses the term Word to refer to the one God, particularly to the thought, plan, or expression of God (John 1:1, 14).

In the New Testament, God manifested Himself in the flesh in the person of Jesus Christ. This manifestation of God is called the Son of God (not God the Son) because He was literally conceived in the womb of a woman by the miraculous operation of the Spirit of God (Matthew 1:18-20; Luke 1:35). Thus the word Son never denotes deity alone, but always describes God as manifested in the flesh, in Christ (Matthew 25:31), and sometimes describes Christ's humanity alone (Romans 5:10). We do not say that the Father is the Son, but that the Father is in the Son. We cannot separate the Son from the Incarnation (Galatians 4:4). Therefore, the Son did not pre-exist the Incarnation except as a plan in the mind of God, namely as the Word.

Jesus Christ is the Son of God - God in flesh (Matthew 1:21-23). He has a dual nature - human and divine, or flesh and Spirit. In other words, two complete natures are united inseparably in the person of Jesus Christ. In His human nature Jesus is the son of Mary. In His divine nature Jesus is the one God Himself (II Corinthians 5:19; Colossians 2:9; I Timothy 3:16). Jesus is the Father (Isaiah 9:6; John 10:30; 14:6-11), Jehovah (Jeremiah 23:6), the Word (John 1:14), and the Holy Spirit (II Corinthians 3:17; Galatians 4:6; Ephesians 3:16-17).

God bless!

Diosdada

Apostolic Believer In One God, Jesus

No scripture proves the trinity.

John 3:16 calls Jesus the only begotten Son of God.The word begotten is a form of the verb beget, which means "to procreate, to father, to sire." Thus begotten indicates a definite point in time - the point at which conception takes place. By definition, the begetter (father) always must come before the begotten (offspring). There must be a time when the begetter exists and the begotten is not yet in existence, and there must be a point in time when the act of begetting occurs.

Hebrews 1:5-6 also reveals that the begetting of the Son occurred at a specific point in time and that the Son had a beginning in time: "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him." The following points can be deducted from these verses: the Son was begotten on a specific day in time; there was a time when the Son did not exist; God prophesied about the Son's future existence ("will be"); and God brought the Son into the world sometime after the creation of the angels. It is easy to see that the Son is not eternal, but was begotten by God almost 2000 years ago.

Galatians 4:4 says, "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law."

The Son had a beginning, for the Spirit of God begat (caused the conception of) the Son in the womb of Mary. (Luke 1:35)

By no means did Jesus teach that the Holy Ghost was another Person. Jesus said, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." (John 14:18)

Paul used the terms "Spirit of God" and "Spirit of Christ" as synonymous terms in reference to the Holy Spirit. He said, "Ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of His." (Rom. 8:9)

[Also see Col. 1 :27, Gal. 4:6]

There is ONE GOD and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN YOU ALL. (Eph. 4:6) There is only ONE GOD manifested in the flesh and received in the hearts of believers today.

Truly in Jesus dwells ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

(Col. 2:9)

The doctrine is not verbalized. But as has been shown, the NT clearly teaches the full deity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It does not teach that these three are one. 1 John 5:7, the Johannine Comma, is known to be a margin note from a copyist and not part of the the original letter as it appears nowhere in the ancient Greek manuscripts. But that redaction becomes necessary to insert and defend to maintain the claim that Christianity is an extension of Judaism because of the Shema, "Hear O Israel, the Lord is God, the Lord is One." So Christians, having already adopted the pagan tradition of gods who mate with human women and produce demigods in their supernatural origin of Jesus, also adopted another familiar concept from Mediterranean religion, the polycephalic god, i.e a god with multiple heads (something Antiochus IV tried too promote to meld Egytian, Syrian, Greek and Jewish tradition. Nevertheless, the triune god of Christianity is not Yahweh and Christianity is in fact another form of Mediterranean polytheism, not an extension of Judaism. It is straining to pretend to be monotheism and failing every attempt at rational explanation of how that is other than self-refuting nonsense.

No, the trinity is not a biblical teaching, in fact it goes against the Bible.

The Throne of God

Isa 66:1

66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

Do you believe the Bible or the theory of man? The theory of man says that God sits on some physical throne. If that is true how then is God omnipresent? God cannot be contained in a box, house, Church or anywhere else. God is everywhere! Look at the verse. what does it say?

How does a God that is everywhere sit down? How does a God that is everywhere have someone sit next to Him? If God is everywhere as the verse indicates then He fills all space! If God is not everywhere then he evidently is millions of miles from here sitting on a chair (throne) in Heaven.

The verse says that Heaven is God's throne. What is Heaven? The Hebrew says: OT:8064 shamayim (shaw-mah'-yim); dual of an unused singular shameh (shaw-meh'); from an unused root meaning to be lofty; the sky (as aloft; the dual perhaps alluding to the visible arch in which the clouds move, as well as to the higher ether where the celestial bodies revolve):

(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright (c) 1994, Biblesoft and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

The throne of God is not a chair. The throne of God is the sky. This is telling us of the bigness of God, the largeness of God, His omnipresence. God is everywhere. Again, how can God be everywhere and then at the same time need a chair to sit on and be confined to that chair?

Num 23:19

19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man,

If God were a man like the verse says he is not than He would need to sit down.

John 4:24

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God is a Spirit and He as a omnipresent Spirit does not need to sit. The Sky, atmosphere etc. is His throne. He is everywhere!

Let us examine a couple more verses.

Rev 3:21

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Rev 4:2

2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

We must understand that the Bible and especially the book of Revelation speaks in parables and typology. Here is a honest question. Why does 3:21 refer to two on the throne but in 4:2 we see only one on the throne? In 3:21 why is the Holy Spirit the "3rd person of the Trinity" left out? Where is he? Why, in all of the verses in the Bible regarding the throne, do we not see the Holy Spirit mentioned? Is he throneless? If John 4:24 says that God is a Spirit and then you believe that the Holy Spirit is a spirit then you must also believe that God is two spirits.

God is one Spirit, not two. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

John 4:24 God is a Spirit...

Rev. 3:21 proves the oneness of God in that it shows how that the Spirit of God and the Son of God are one in the same. God was manifest in the flesh, 1 Tim. 3:16. God the Word was made flesh John 1:14. God himself came to earth as a man.

When John saw the throne of God, when God was revealed to him in all his glory and Kingship he saw only ONE. Only one was on the throne. God is one in number and has has three manifestations, namely the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. In all of human history there has never been a earthly King that shared his throne with another. This analogy that the scripture gives us is not for us to count "persons" but to see the Kingship of God and to see who the King of Kings really is, the Lord Jesus Christ!

The fact is, Jesus Christ sits on the throne alone as God! See Isa 44:24 24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

More scripture proving thst Jesus is the King of Kings...

1 Tim 6:15

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Rev 17:14

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Rev 19:16

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Jesus Christ-the manifestation of God-is the ONE true God!

1 John 5:20

20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Ask yourself..is the word trinity in the bible?

it isnt because that was a man-made name used to associate The Lord as three different beings.

The Lord is omnipresent which means He is everywhere at once.

The Lord is omnipotent which means He has unlimited power.

The Lord is omnicient which means He is all knowing.

Hebrews 14:13 "Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.'

Jeremiah 23:24 Can anyone hide in secret places

so that I cannot see him?"

declares the LORD.

"Do not I fill heaven and earth?"

declares the LORD.

It is hard for man to comprehend that God is just one spirit and that He is possible of all things?

Arent you limiting God's power if you are saying that God couldn't die on the cross as Jesus and reign on His throne in heaven at the same time??

We humans cant do such a thing because we have a physical body limiting us to a certain amount of space at a time. God is Time, he doesnt follow a clock like we do so HE CAN DO A MILLION THINGS AT ONCE IF HE WANTED TO!!!

God does not exist in three because he is one, The Father, The son, and the Holy Ghost is still The Lord. Those are just his different names like The Provider, The Savior, The Protector...and so on.

Look up mark 12-29-30

No, it isn't. Deuteronomy 6:4 says God is one. Notice 1 John 5:7 says "Word" rather than "Son"

It is all in who you ask.

Personally, no I do not believe in the Trinity. I believe in God manifested in the flesh as Jesus Christ and returned to reside in us as the Holy Spirit.

This is the Pentecostal Oneness view of Christ. God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all one and the same. Not three that make up the whole Godhead.

There verses have always summed it up for me.

Matthew 28:18-20 (New International Version)

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Acts 2:38 (New International Version)

Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 4:12 (New International Version)

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

There are many bible passages to back up this view as well:

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/jesusgd2.htm

Please note this website was made by KJV only believers so I do not agree with what they say about the other versions of the bible, but I do agree with the bible passages themselves.

Many who believe in the Trinity will try and use Matthew 28:18-20 to prove it, but the problem is you find no where in the bible where anyone is baptized in the triune equation. Believers are only baptized in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit which is Jesus Christ.

The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not explicitly taught in the New Testament in that the word trinity is not used in the New Testament nor is there verse that teaches a) the Father Son and Holy Spirit are separate beings b) all three are God and c) there is only one God.

However, the doctrine of the Holy Trinity was arrived at over a few ceturies of debating the many New Testament verses that talk of the divinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, there separation and their unity within the confines of a monotheistic religion.

I personally believe that the doctrine of the Holy Trinity beatufully unites all the New Testament teachings on the deity of the Father Son and Spirit.

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1 John 5:7, 8:

KJ reads: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.” (Dy also includes this Trinitarian passage.) However, NW does not include the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.” (RS, NE, TEV, JB, NAB also leave out the Trinitarian passage.)

Regarding this Trinitarian passage, textual critic F. H. A. Scrivener wrote: “We need not hesitate to declare our conviction that the disputed words were not written by St. John: that they were originally brought into Latin copies in Africa from the margin, where they had been placed as a pious and orthodox gloss on ver. 8: that from the Latin they crept into two or three late Greek codices, and thence into the printed Greek text, a place to which they had no rightful claim.”—A Plain Introduction to the Criticism of the New Testament (Cambridge, 1883, third ed.), p. 654.