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Does the truth stand clear from error?

The Quran teaches that the truth is Islam and it stands clear from error. Meaning all people will recognize Islam is truth and those who reject Islam do so knowing it is the truth.

Seriously does the truth stand clear from error? Do all people truly recognize the truth at all times?

Do the only people who err always purposely err knowing they are wrong?

You see I find this statement to be 100% wrong! I find Islam to be from a source other than God.

I don't think all people recognize what is true and I don't find that the truth is always clear to sinful people. As a matter of fact I believe people don't know the truth until the truth is revealed to them by God. If this statement was accurate that people by nature know the truth there would be no real reason for the Quran the truth would be natural to man and man knowingly and willingly sin already knowing by nature right from wrong. No reason for the law of Moses the Torah or the Gospel because man knows the truth without instruction from God. Man would by this wonderful ability would recognize the Quran as the truth and then choose it or knowngly reject the truth.

Does this make sense to you, That man does not need God to recognize the truth but the truth is clear to all people by nature?

Update:

Saya, This aya does say the truth stands clear from error; It is implying that all can see the Quran is true based on truth being clear from error.

They are juding the Quran by thier judgement of truth and by their knowledge know the Quran is true.

This is not saying they are using the truth from the Quran to judge the Quran...well of course the Quran is true according to the Quran...thats not what the aya is saying it is saying because the truth is clear to all people they will know the Quran is true. Sorry that is wrong.

It is worng in saying the truth is clear to man without revelation from God and it is wrong when it says people who reject it reject it, reject it knowing it is true.

Update 2:

Spider, I recognize the difference between Islam and Muslim.

My God is indeed greater than a man.

My God is also greater than a man's idea of truth but the truth is revealed by God to man.

This is my point..God is greater than a man but according to this aya that would not be the case...We would recognize the truth because we know the truth and that is how we knwo God is true because he agrees with our understanding of what is true...that is WRONG!

Update 3:

Q:256. Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

This says you will recognize the Quran is truth because the truth stands clear from error.

This assumes that man with his undersanding of truth will recognize the Quran is true.

Man receives truth from God, God's word is not proved by a man's idea of truth.

Everyone does not accept the Quran is true which makes this statement false.

Not only because the process is wrong but the results also prove the statement untrue.

This statement presumes I believe the Quran is true and reject it knowing it is true.

Update 4:

Thanks Butterfly, This aya suggest that we will recognize the Quran is true because the truth stands clear from error.

That statement suggest that a man knows God because God is agreeable to the way a man thinks.

The Bible teaches God's righteousness is greater than sinful man and is revealed by God...the truth is not automaticly a part of man..we receive the truth from God. It is through receiving the truth from God we recognize his word is true.

It is through being made new through the atonement we receive the Holy Spirit and then we have he truth inside of us and we can then recognize the word of God is truth.

Update 5:

This is indeed how I recognize a revelation is not from God.. that it suggest the truth is automaticly agreeable and recognized by man.

That we finite, sinful creatures already comprehend the truth of God and recognize it because God is agreeable to man's understanding.

No without God we are finite and sinful flesh and it is only by his revelation we know the truth.

God is indeed greater than a man.

Update 6:

If Allah is greater than a man this aya is problematic. If the truth stands clear to us from error and we judge his truth based on our own judgment, then his truth is not greater than a man's understanding.

If God's revelation is not greater than our common understanding...why would we need it? If we already have the truth isn us and we judge his word according to our understanding of truth...than God's word is subject ot what a finite sinful man can accept.

Update 7:

If the truth stands clear from error...and the word of God is subject to what we can accept as true...why would we need God to confirm the truth we already know? The true word of God is received by revelation from God and it is not subject to what you believe or what you can accept. It is not clear to a sinful man but is made clear only by revelation from God.

Update 8:

The White Horse, If we are all born good and with the truth and the truth stands clear from evil....logically no one could be influenced to do evil and we have no need for God. Who influenced us to do evil? How? Did we willfully choose to do evil? If we willfully chose evil how is it you say we are born good?

Update 9:

trueisrael, thanks for your imput much of which I agree with.

Are you saying all truth can be physically proved?

The Jews are through Jacob not Esau.

There is a greater truth than your physical eyes can see.

There are indeed physical truths and there are spiritual truths.

We reside in this temporary physical world but it through faith that we can become the heirs of God which is eternal and is through the atonement of Jesus Christ.

Update 10:

Hassan, I have not mixed them up.

If you will read my comments I definitely addressed this.

The Quran teaches the truth stands clear from error meaning that those who reject the Quran recognize it as truth and willfully reject the truth.

I state emphatically that this is NOT true.

I reject the Quran and I definitely do not believe that it is true and this alone proves it is false because it states that I reject it knowing it is true.

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    I agree with you. For one I also find Islam to be from a source other than God. I have read part of the quran and know some things about Islam and I reject it as the truth and therefore don't believe it to be the truth. I do think man needs God to recognize the truth. I was raised with Christian beliefs, but had my doubts about many things until I was 18 and learned the truth for myself. That is the day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and began to follow the truth and God. I think once a person know the Holy Spirit they know what they are following is the truth. I've spoken to a lot of Muslims about the personal sensations I get when communing with the Holy Spirit and none of them have ever had that feeling. If only they would open their minds and hearts they would be so much more blessed.

  • 5 years ago

    No, the Bible is obvious. As you are saying, Paul condemned gay conduct as a contravention of the best way God supposed persons to behave (this doesn't imply, nonetheless, that God hates homosexuals; a factor I think demands to be burdened when you consider that many men and women are uncertain approximately what the Bible says). Apart from the literal interpretation, there is not any different fair interpretation of Leviticus 18:22 and similar passages. "The fashioned copies of the bible did not point out homosexuality AT ALL. It was once installed by means of bias." This does not even make feel. Where's your proof?

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I agree with you that truth is not known to us until God himself reveals it to us. The Quran is false and deceptive. People are "born into" the religion of Islam and threatened if they leave. They don't let them choose what to believe. It is all force, a satanic force.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The truth can be felt; I have spoken to people who has felt it...but not via any religious book; truth happens to be a very practical subject and it lives among folks who practice it. There is one truth and it may have nothing to do with Religion.

    On my first visit to Scotland two years ago, I had dinner at a small resturant; the folks were down to earth friendly and I had that feeling of being surrounded by extreme love; I thought to myself; this has to be a Christian restaurant. So when I returned a few days after, I asked the nice lady who served me if the restaurant was owned by Christians. She smiled sweetly and told me that it was a little mining town with no churches; she said that God is hardly discussed but the folks love and care for each other.

    There is One truth. "Love God and Love each other."

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  • Hassan
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    1 decade ago

    you have mixed two things. truth does stand clear from falsehood.

    accepting it or rejecting it is a different thing.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Islam is the religion of the fitrah, the natural inclination or pattern on which Allaah has created mankind. For this reason, people of sound minds and upright inclinations embrace Islam, as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There is no child who is not born in a state of fitrah (i.e., Islam), then his parents make him into a Jew, a Christian or a Magian (Zoroastrian).

    “ ‘… Allaah’s handiwork according to the pattern on which He has made mankind: no change (let there be) in the work (wrought) by Allaah: that is the Standard Religion…’ [al-Room 30:30 – interpretation of the meaning – Yusuf Ali’s translation].”

    ---->What is meant is that Allaah has created mankind with the potential to learn the truth, accept Tawheed (pure monotheism) and submit to Allaah. Their natural inclination is to learn Islam and love it, but a bad education, a kaafir (disbelieving) environment, their own whims and desires and the devils among jinn and mankind turn them away from the truth.

    --->the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) reported that his Lord (Allaah) said: “I created all my slaves as ‘hunafa’ (pure monetheists), but the devils turned them away from their religion.” (Reported by Muslim).

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    Allah says in Quran

    Their messengers said, "Can there be doubt about Allah, Creator of the heavens and earth? He invites you that He may forgive you of your sins, and He delays your death for a specified term." ...014.010

    Say, [O Muhammad], "Is it other than Allah that you order me to worship, O ignorant ones?"039.064

  • 1 decade ago

    My dear djmantx, nice to see you still on your mission to prove that Islam is false, not revealed to Muhammad(s.a.w), that Quran is not the word of God blah blah blah....

    Well anyway.. U got the verse (though u havent mentioned it here) completely wrong. Yes, people don't recognise the truth unless it is revealed to them from God Himself, through His messengers.

    And what God says in Quran is that, He has revealed His words, The Truth, and that truth stands clear from error. Now whose fault it is to reject the truth after it has been revealed?

    Quran is the word of God.

    Islam is the religion of God.

    Muhmmad(s.a.w) is His last messenger.

  • 1 decade ago

    The Truth stands very close to error in order to present the correct path to any who desires to find it.

    The truth is something that can be "proved" as absolute fact. The truth is that God only spoke to one race of people on the entire planet and that people is the nation of Israel. Both Ishmael and Jacob are descendants of Abraham but God only made a covenant with one of them. Islam is the religion of Ishmael who is the eldest son of Abraham and father of the Arab people. God never chose an Arab as his priest or prophet.Don't get me wrong, the modern day Christian is as guilty as one who worships Islam because they practice a Gentile doctrine and not the doctrine of the Lord. That is why all their traditions are built on falsehoods. The truth is that...

    Psalm 147:19-20

    19He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.

    20He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

    Deuteronomy 32:8

    8When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

    Amos 2:11

    11And I raised up of your sons for prophets, and of your young men for Nazarites. Is it not even thus, O ye children of Israel? saith the LORD.

    Deuteronomy 4:32-34

    32For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is, or hath been heard like it?

    33Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live?

    34Or hath God assayed to go and take him a nation from the midst of another nation, by temptations, by signs, and by wonders, and by war, and by a mighty hand, and by a stretched out arm, and by great terrors, according to all that the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes?

    Islam is the religion of the Ismaelites who are Arab. God made no covenant with Ishmael. Ishmael was overlooked even though he was the elder but the Lord still blessed him since he is part of Abrahams family(see Genesis 22). Ishmaelites were promised 12 kingdoms with 12 princes that can easily be identified if one was to look. God didn't chose Israel as his priest and turn around and send them an Arab to be their king.

    Genesis 17:20

    20And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

    If you were to seek the truth as the Lord directed us, you will see that he kept his word and it will not return void. Ishmael has 13 kingdoms today but only because they knocked off Egypt and now occupy it. Ishmaels heritage is the oil cartel of the modern world.(see OPEQ). There is no peace in the Middle East because of a fight between Ishmael and Esau that has been going on ever since Israel fell in 70 AD. They conspired together to get rid of Israel but didn't really agree on how the land would be divided.

    Psalm 83:3-8,12

    3They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

    4They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

    5For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

    **6The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

    7Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

    8Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

    **12Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.

    The people that own the world bank that call themselves Jews are the true descendants of Esau(see Revelation 2:9,3:9) and eldest twin of Isaac. Esau(Jewish people) and Ishmael(Arab people) are both the eldest sons who believe with all their hearts that Jerusalem is their rightful inheritance.That is why there is no peace in the middle East. Everyone over there knows the other is lying.

    Joel 3:4-8

    4Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

    5Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things:

    6The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.

    7Behold, I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your recompence upon your own head:

    8And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the Sabeans, to a people far off: for the LORD hath spoken it.

    Isaiah 34:8

    For it is the day of the LORD's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.

    The Holy Land was promised to Jacob/Israel. Every nation on the planet is living in there land that was given to their fathers by God except for Israel. So did God choose Ishmael to spearhead his church? Absolutely not.

    Romans 9:1-5

    1I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

    2That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

    3For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

    4Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

    5Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

    Romans 11:1-5

    1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

    2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,

    3Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

    4But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

    5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

    The truth is Muhmmad was an Arab which makes it impossible for him to have been a prophet for God.

    Source(s): The Truth
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