Muslims, please correct me where I am wrong, is this what you believe about the Gospel?

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Let me get this straight... Jesus receives revelation from God called the Gospel..Jesus begins teaching this revelation we dont know what it was.. I guess it had to be Islam..what other revelation would Allah give him right? but it must have been good..because Jews and Gentiles converted to Islam Christianity. They no longer called themselves Jews but Christians...of course they were technicly Muslims.


Now most  Jews wanted Jesus crucified, not for making himself one with God of course.. so it was probably because he taught Islam (called Christianity) and they were jealous right? So at this time Islam was called Christianity.

So these Jews that disliked Christ tells the Romans to cruicify him..this after his ministry of about 3 and a half years.
Allah saves Jesus by causing these to believe they crucified him when they did not.

So Jesus began teaching Islam Christianity in the year 29Ad until 32 ad when Allah tricked people to believe he was crucified so Islam Christianity was only taught for  3 years or so..

Now almost immediately after these people were made to believe in the crucifixion Islam Christianity vanished off the face of the earth. Even the book of the Christian Islamist  vanished because the first gospels were written after  the incident.

Now apparently these followers of Jesus must not have known he wasn't crucified.

So immediatly after Allah saves Jesus and has some guy he didn't like as well as Jesus crucified.
The Christian Islamic Gospel vanishes off the face of the earth for six hundred years.. the earliest Christian writings speak of Jesus crucified and the Gospel tells of the crucifixion of Jesus..
So history is clear the earliest Christians belived Jesus was crucified.
So not only were the people who wanted Christ crucified tricked but also these followers of Christ were also deceived.

So for 600 years Allah forgot all about Islam Christianity and it became the Christianity we have today then he sent revelation to Muhammad and instructs Christians that this Gospel is his Gospel and they should follow it...Wait!!! cant be Jesus's Islamic Gospel can it?

There's a problem Allah says in the Quran this Gospel is his word...What??? Yes and he instructs these Christians who believed in the atonement of Jesus Christ to follow their Gospel... What the corrupt one that teaches the atonement??? Obviously.

 So someone must have found the Islamic Gospel after it had vanished for 600 years (You know the one Jesus carried, the Islamic Gospel) just before Muhammad received his revelation so the Quran is accurate to tell Christians this is his book and they should follow it...then it must have quickly got lost again...Really lost because all of those Christians completely forgot they had it and what it taught right after they found it, after it had been lost for 600 years.
So quickly Chrsitians found the other gospel and quickly lost it again. So apprently they also forgot that Jesus wasnt crucified really quick after Islam and found their corrupt Gospel again.
This makes sense right?

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magicofdawn (again) · Accepted Answer

Why do Christians find all this so hard to believe?  Why wouldn't we believe that God would trick people for 600 years?  I can just imagine Him laughing it up with the angels about how He pulled one over His creation.  Why shouldn't we believe that the original Gospels were here, disappeared, reappeared with Muhammad and are gone again?  It all makes so much sense now, lol!    <sarcasm>  

Thank you for showing us all the truth as taught by Islam.

Anonymous · Answer

You need to understand that the quran quotes of Jesus was taken from the Gnostic Gospels which were written centuries after the death of Jesus.
The theory in the Quran which says Jesus didn't die on the Cross was taken word for word from the Gnostic Gospels.
The simple truth is, the writers of the Quran knew very little of the real Jesus; they even thought that the mother of Jesus was the sister of Moses.

You are wasting your time listeninging to remarks of 'Rosy Pearl' who is dumb like moon rock and is presently reporting your question to the Yahoo Police.  But don't worry, Allah will deal with him.  People like Rosy Peal are dangerous to themselves, dangerous to Humanity and also dangerous to Allah.

Anonymous · Answer

That's a good  question DJ.I find it hard to think how Allah could have duped Mary the mother of Jesus to believe after making her (not to mention the disciples)  suffer such anguish.Also the Jesus who fled is a coward and very dishonourable.I mean couldn't he turn his opponents into frogs?

musa · Answer

Wow. You almost got it and made it to the finishing line. But blacked out just b4 the end.

I really appreciate your effort. We Muslims cant guide anyone. All we can do is just point at the direction one should be going to reach the right destination. It is Allah Who guides. It is just a mercy from Him that He gave us a chance to talk to people.

 A 1000 years in your sight is a day in the sight of your Lord. So what is 600 years in the sight of your Lord.  

Allah says in the Quran that He will never change a people till they change themselves.

Which Gospel are you talking about? Where is the Gospel of Jesus (Injil)

Which Bible among the hundreds of the Bibles today do you think is the right one?  Yours? 

If yes, what about the others.? Why don't one denomination agree with the others.

  You know what happened in the Necea Council in 325 .A.D. right?

How many individually written Gospel records were burnt and  disposed? Why only four gospels were chosen? Why even the four Gospels don't agree with each other ?

Why are such statements as the following and similar other statements are found written in brackets, between paragraphs that speaks of the same incident but differently in the same book ?

NIV

[ The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark. 16. 9 - 20].

 In the above the Bible itself agrees that things have been added. Why are you trying to refute what the Bible says. Don't you believe the Bible ?

Who removed the stone from the tomb ? What happened to the body of Jesus ?

Why wasn't there even a single witness to the Resurrection in the Bibles.

Peter the Rock, who walked, talked, ate and slept with Jesus, denied it was Jesus. Was Peter who sweared it wasn't Jesus , than a liar ?

Life is a test. A test also to find the Truth about God. If not  God would have appeared in person b4 everyone and would have made all believers. as He says in the Quran, "If it is Our Will, We would have made all believers. Will you than compel mankind to believe. None will believe except  those who Allah  guides". 
Or at least He would have made things obvious before our eyes. If He did, than it wont be a test at all and there wont be a purpose in life.


Im no scholar. Just a student of comparative religious studies. Am still a student.

You have done some thinking. I truely appreciate that. May Allah Guide you to His Truth and save you from the  fire, :

"Where their worms does not die and the fire is not quenched. Everyone will be salted with the fire" (Jesus in the Bible}

Why do you take so much trouble trying to prove Jesus died ?
Cant you love Jesus without taking it as he  died but saved by God, just the way we muslims believe and love Jesus.
Why do you want him dead? Is it because Paul says that if you don't believe that he died for you than your Faith is a waste.

[well 1 last question., According to the Bible , Jesus had knowledge that he will die and come to life after three days, as an atoning sacrifice for the sins of man. Why than he uttered such words if he knew that he was here to die for your sins?.]  (Think about that)

Actually he was what he was. You people killed the character of Jesus in your made up story to suit your whims and wishes. Thats why we cant's get answers to all those Q's above.

Anonymous · Answer

The bible clearly states that JESUS WAS SENT TO THE EARTH TO DIE FOR THE SINS OF MANKIND.

What is this new theory ?

We have two books - the quran and the bible.

We know what they state.

Why are you spinning new hypotheses ?

Read the bible too with an unbiased viewpoint, it tallies everywhere - the ancient prophecies of the prophets were fulfilled - every word - by Jesus.

So now how does this far-fetched theory make sense ?
Nobody can lose important manuscripts time and again

RIDICULOUS HYPOTHESIS, the scholars and other people do the same thing - twist and confuse something to be something else using a lot of guesswork. where's the proof that it really happened ? How do YOU know that allah made somebody else who was the look-alike of jesus die in his stead ?

Answer ---> guesswork

Reading texts with a previously acquired mindset will get you nowhere.

EDIT :
@asker
I'm still in the process of reading the quran, so I can't say whether Allah deceives people or not, but it says in the bible that GOD NEVER LIES.

SATAN IS THE FATHER OF THE LIE.

God is all-powerful and almighty, what need has he to lie to the puny creations on earth who don't undrsnd his mightiness ?

My religious views may not be the same as yours, but I respect Allah and am open to any argument - but if u insinuate that allah is a liar . . . Well.... What can I say ?

And Bdw I've researched rosy's arguments and am in complete agreement with her views on islam, Allah doesn't trick people or play games and whatever illusion/reality the people saw is not equal to ALLAH made them see it ( the 2nd point sort of gets me, though - read the bible, Jesus's message was foreordained to be preached around the world - but everybody is entitled to their own opinions ).

Anonymous · Answer

Yea and during his crucifixion that wasn't really him God allowed his followers and mother to stand there and watch Him be tortured, they saw His suffering and His death.  When did God become so cruel as to let a mother stand there and watch all this mourn for her son as any mother would and it not be her son after all.  The God I know and worship is not that cruel.

The rest of your posting could only possibly be believed by people who think God is cruel and stupid.

Roger2008 · Answer

Yes mate, Jesus has been Crucified then went out of his grave, this is the back bone of modern Christianity, the whole process is the reason for being called Jesus which means the savior. This is a myth and this so called Jesus or Emanuel his original Aramaic name, he is not a prophet nor son of God, he did not receive any thing from ALLAH, modern Christianity just like Buddhism and ancient Egyptian religions took the original story of ISA the son of Mariam who lived prior to 1000 BC and built their myths around it.

βﾚⅰ₮z · Answer

Asker:
The only problem Christianity is facing, that the available Gospels we have now is a product of the Roman Church that were issued about at least 250 years after Jesus's ascendance. If you want to know the true account of what really happened to Jesus pbuh, you're gonna have to refer to Quran.

The available Gospels are not meant to reveal the true account of what actually took place, the polytheistic element had to be implemented by the Jews and the Romans for an ideology that will ultimately serve the Jews and the vatican. (guess who are ruling the world now, exactly, those 2 parties), The Prophet Muhammed pbuh never represnted any institution or any political agenda, that's why our religion is not called "Muhammadism" or "muhammadity", its called the way God decreed.

The original Gospels had been spread and taught before the interference of the Vatican, if you want to know what the "unofficial" classic Gospels have to say about the life of Jesus pbuh, which surprisingly don't say anything related to his alleged divinity, you can always pay a visit to Jerusalem and check this classic version yourself, a version which is being concealed as it contradicts the man made dogma imposed in the Vatican's version.

Ruchjat · Answer

Assalamu alaikum. You are right.Yes really I do agree with your story given to all of us..Thanks for sharing knowledge to us about the islamic Gospel.which  has been lost and during the era of Muhammad pbuh  emerged again in the form of original Al Qur'an masya allah,but until now the followers of Jesus do not believe it 
Jesus in line with the Qur'an was not crucified. He was saved by Allah swt by replacing him with someone who had the appearance just like Jesus.

FaRaZ KhUwAjA · Answer

All i Believe in is (There is) none worthy of worship except Allah. Muhammad is Messenger of ALLAH !!
Rest i Don't give a crap !!

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