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Muslims: Was the promise given to Isaac or Ishmael? Genesis 21:12?

..."Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the River Euphrates." Gen. 15:18. Is this modern day Israel? Or the Arabian peninsula in your opinion?

But you say...the "family laws" in Deuteronomy 21:15-17 means that Ishmael had right to the "first born" position. Is the Bible retroactive? This was written 500 years later. What about the laws of marriage to a close of kin? It was changed under the laws of Moses; but not in the time of Abraham.

So, is Genesis 21:12 still valid?

And God said unto Abraham, "Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called."

In your opinion?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Galation 4:

    22For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

    23But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    24Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

    25For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

    26But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    27For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

    28Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

    29But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

    30Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

    31So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

  • doucet
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    Remembering that the Torah supersedes all something. then you upload in some prophetic scrolls written later by technique of Jewish leaders and prophets. Like Daniel and Isaiah. Then that is going to become a Christian e book or translation alongside with the Gospels and letters of Paul and a few others. Now you have a bible. as quickly as this grew to become into achieved and lived with in general in a non efficient way do to the Catholics for 1300 years. commencing in approximately 300AD. Now a Pagan named Mo hammed took a visit. while he got here domicile he had a dream and then knew issues others did no longer understand . For one factor he had a twisted theory of scripture in his head yet he began telling the bible thoughts that he had to are transforming into from scripture. in all probability listening to some study and clarify. Then he desperate to tell the those that this grew to become into the authentic scripture as given to him by technique of God Allah. That the Jews had replaced the Torah and it grew to become right into a lie. The Prophets have been talking approximately ISlam and the Christians have been purely susceptible kneed slaves for the destiny. interior the Torah Issac grew to become into the promise as God pronounced Sari could provide delivery to the inheritor. no longer Ishmael could grew to become right into a wild *** of a guy and had to be pushed away to maintain him from killing Issac. His blood has been attempting to kill Issac ever as a results of fact. and that's the actuality.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The Jews broke the cvernant becaused they sinned against God.

    God kept his promise to Ismael by making his descandants 12 Princes but we mut remember that Ismaeil was not originally Arabic and is not the father of the Arab race as Muslims say.

    All Arabs are not descended from Ismael.

  • 1 decade ago

    Promises were given to both of them, Allah loved both of them and if they were brothers, surely they were taught to love one another and share. If the generations after them could not do this, that is their apostasy not Isaac's and Ishmael's. We can love one another today and share the land.

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  • FTL
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    "As for Ishmael, I will bless him also, just as you have asked. I will make him extremely fruitful and multiply his descendants. He will become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation." Bible - Genesis Chapter 17, Verse 20

    I answered from your book....

  • 1 decade ago

    Both keep reading and then go back to where God told Abrahim A.s. that he was promised 2 great nations from his blood.

    He was given 2 sons and that was given.

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