Once saved always saved? What if that "saved" person later commits a serious sin?

From what I understand it to be, if you have sought salvation, or to become a born-again Christian, if that is your chosen faith; or in another faith you have sought God's forgiveness; then if you repeat the same sin that you committed beforehand, you have lied to God and therefore, fallen from His grace.

All of the OT and NT references point to the fact that forgiveness involves remorse for your past wrongdoings. And therefore, if you feign piety to God, and continue to sin in your heart then you will lose salvation.

Redemption in the eyes of God, by all accounts, involves making good on your promise to God, that is never to do it again. In short not repeat the same sins over and over again because that means you are really unrepentant and therefore have made no efforts to stop.

But even born-again Christians will sin, whether they choose to or not. Its in the nature of religion to define sins, and it is in the nature of humans to err.

Forgiveness is divine as the adage goes.

I will give you an example. Lets say you have a born-again. Bernie Madoff II. And Bernie instead of being Jewish or whatever he is, is a Christian. Let's make him a Catholic which is even better.

And Bernie II is running a huge Ponzi scheme. He decides to be reborn in Christ, and by modern Catholic standards attends the new RCIA or whatever the parish he's in decides he has to do to become repristinated in the eyes of God.

Then he goes to Communion and accepts the Eucharist while continuing his scam, collecting money, skimming it and playing games with peoples' retirement money. He's hurting people, right?

Well he's come to the Body of Christ with hands stained with sin, and an impure heart concealing his intent to continue to sin.

Therefore, by accepting the Eucharist after proclaiming himself to be of pure spirit and heart, having confessed his sins; well he's still sinning without a shred of remorse. He continues to lie to his investors and God.

Well he may have achieved the "state of Grace" but upon Communion has fallen back into sin.

My recollection by the Catholic faith is that one who falls after rebirth in Christ, after feigning to have achieved the "state of Grace" suffers the ultimate penalty. Spiritual death for eternity.

So I believe the answer to your question is that salvation is not set in stone particularly for those who fail to make amends before God, and will ultimately fail to atone from their sins resulting in a fall from Grace.

Now personally I renounced the Catholic faith decades ago because I do not believe in the Church as an institution. And I do not subscribe to any 1 faith but choose instead to believe in God.

In the Old Testament, in the story of Cain and Abel, Cain slew Abel, and upon being questioned by God, Cain lied to God.

God cast Cain into the wilderness and ex-communicated him from his Grace. Cain was cast into the land of Nob and was to hide himself from God's sight for the rest of his days. He suffered spiritual death, but was allowed to live in order to atone and attempt to find God's good graces.

The end result was that Cain's house collapsed upon him, killing him. What happened to Cain's spirit, his soul and God's grace over it is forever uncertain. Perhaps this is why Grace is either achieved or it is not.

In my opinion God loves all. But there are limits. If you lie to God I suspect that is the true, deadliest mortal sin. As they say, it takes Chutzpah to lie to God and then be heard to complain that one is damned to spiritual death.

Once saved always saved often misunderstood by humans. God recognizes and remembers salvation, but like human marriage, it can be ended by just one side of the agreement, when the person makes a choice of sinning without repentance. God will never decide to let someone go unless a person who has gotten saved chooses to live without God, then they are backsliders but still "saved". Even after making that choice, God's arms are still open for repentance. True repentance is welcome. God is like life insurance, with salvation a policy. living according to His will is like paying the payments. If you fail to, you can go back reinstate it, but if you never do, it's invalid. If you never seek forgiveness for sins and stop them, the salvation won't stand in eternity.

Being saved doesn't include mans effort in the actual salvation part, just in the choice.

When Jesus died for sin it's sin as a whole. Jesus is God and outside of time. Sin is forgiven at salvation.

Salvation is in Christ not in man. If salvation was in man then you could be unsaved.

jesus taught "remission of sins"

jesus taught all sins are forgiven

jesus taught that though a man were dead, if he call up His Name he will be saved

the only unforgiveable sin is blasphemy of the holy ghost

there are "sins unto death" murder rape suicide"

there is a condition of the conscience where men Fear God in judgment and there are punishments affixed to Sins

while we can be forgiven "eventually" for all sins. there is Nothing that i can see which says All consequences will be erased.

and of course Jesus said it is our duty to forgive, or those that dont forgive have the greater sin.

there is something called falling away from grace.

there is something to REWARDS and Works.

there is Exaltation

there can be everlasting punishment if men Never repent, if i understand correctly, that men are cast out of the kingdom of God and never return, in repentance.

The Most Serious sins are murder and rape and blasphemy of the holy ghost. while it is written that the murderer does not have forgiveness and though it says Adultery is forgiven Once and accepting the mark of the beast is not forgiven, there is still something to PEOPLE who bow their Knee at the last day of judgment, those that confess Jesus is LORD will NOT be the same as the sons of perdition that are Lost.

Its not about committing a serious sin. Its about committing the same sin over again after being saved. it means you weren't sincere and you showed no remorse. Its like asking God for a license to keep hurting others and God over and over again. Sooner or later you're just damned.

When Jesus died on the cross; He paid for all the sins of all the world. This includes ANY/ALL sins that YOU would commit in your lifetime. When He died; all of your sins were 'future' and He died to pay for them ALL. When we trust Christ; we are saved from the consequences of ALL sin; past, present and future. The thing that you are overlooking is that when we are saved; we are indwelled by the Spirit of God and the Holy Spirit helps by giving us the power to have victory over sin.

Nope! Once saved always saved is a big load of BS. You have to live your life as a representative of Christ, you can't just do what you want after you accept Jesus.

I think God will judge you for what is in your heart. We are human and will sin as we were not made perfect. The important thing is to know you've done all that you can do.

Once saved, always saved. You cannot lose your salvation. We are human and we will always sin till the day we die (romans 3:23). The greatest sin is to reject Jesus Christ. Christianity is based on a relationship with Jesus Christ. If you don't have a relationship w/ Jesus Christ, you are not a Christian.

The idea of being saved is a relatively recent "fad" in christianity. Jesus in the bible NEVER talks about the idea that there is one moment in your life where you suddenly become a christian. In fact his many sermons and parabales make it seem like a lifetime struggle with no clear beginning and that if you are "saved' it happens after you die.

the course of christianity is to live your life to the standards set in the bible, only those faithful until they die will be "saved"