Those who believe post-op Transsexual women are, or used to be men, what SPECIFICALLY is it that offends you?

In the rock opera "Hair" there is one song sung by a black man in which he utilizes every possible negative term used towards black people. I hesitate to list these not wanting to offend anyone. The point is we human beings do that regardless of logic. I grew up in an all white neighborhood in a very middle class area of Detroit. The only black people I ever saw were on TV or in newspapers. There they were stereotyped and shown rioting or doing crime. With only stereotypical information I had developed a fear and even loathing for these people. It did not make any real sense but this is how I had learned. To me they were the "boogy man" incarnate. I had no means to be interactive and to learn about our cultural differences. So I was ignorant. Today my best friend in the world is a black transwoman.

Erica, this is essentially the same concept turned towards us. It is used in the religious hate agenda too. What someone does not comprehend or more directly experience they know so little that a clear and concise understanding is not within the realm of possibility. Even Mildred Brown in her book, "True Selves" admitted that while she as well as other health care professionals helping transsexual people, do not truly understand this. They can and do empathize with us. They can see the feelings and emotions and know of the known etiology and where that is leading. But as non-trans people they cannot possibly truly understand this state of human experience. I understand you and you understand me as well as every other transsexual man or women will understand us. However that is all that can understand this malady.Education has already made some wonderful milestones for us. The advances in medical as well as legal forums are testimony to this concept. For now until more knowledge is garnered and more knowledge is spread we must endure this stupidity which is how we see it.

Today Kristine and i are to be handfasted and heartjoined. We transcend all of this with love. As a Wiccan I know that our rede has the term "An harm ye none". I use this logic in dealing with this hate agenda. Give them knowledge as a tool and great works will begin. Give them argument and hate grows.

Bright Blessings to all!

Sharon

It's the gender taboo. Most people believe that gender is NOT fluid and most people think there are only two possible and unchangeable genders: Male and Female. Having a gender presentation that doesn't fix their myopic "norm" makes them extremely uncomfortable. The idea that the heart of who they are, at the chemical level can be altered so dramatically, that this "badass tough guy" persona really is only skin deep and that if some "tranny" can transform herself into a more congruent gender, (i.e. female), that means that a pretty pink dress is only a few little pills away.

When some challenged individuals first see through the looking-glass, it's just too much for them. Poor macho souls.

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Those who believe post-op Transsexual women are, or used to be men, what SPECIFICALLY is it that offends you?

This is a serious question, as I'm trying to understand the root of Transphobia. I've heard words used like "repulsive", "sick", "sicken", "disgust", "offensive", "deceive", "deceptive", "immoral",...

If I could only clear it up for one person let me help you on why they would be disgusted! First of all it is unfair maybe even selfish for the post op new woman to want sympathy compassion and empathy while the victim of a deception does not get any. My view is totally compassionate for humans born with a chromosomal abnormality, but most of post op trans men to women have gender dysphoria which is different, and most of them about 99% who do it by choice, not by abnormal chromosomes, are in a certain "bar type" lifestyle narccissitic, egomaniacal, deceptive. and while there are the RARE RARE few individuals whom I share compassion because of being born with extra or double choromosomes, there are a multitude of XY post op trans, that will not disclose their true nature, writing it off *claiming new found womanhood* without the ability to bear child. 95% of the entire population is regular xx and xy and that's what drives this thing and most normal xy males go out seeking xx females and when they talk to anyone they are interested they are under a sever impression that it is what they are looking for, and when it turns out that it wasn't they become highly upset because yes, what they were looking for was an xx female, IT'S NO OFFENCE TO THE TRANSGENDER WHEN THE natural MALE IS THE ONE WHO HAS BEEN DECEIVED IN NATURE. Most offence would be considered by the ego of the transgender who expects the most compassion selfishly. NOW I even have compassion for the XY Female, but I do not have compassion for everyone, who in their hearts and minds they know the man is seeking a xx female (I lie I still do have compassion but I know who is to be convicted for the wrong in this instance) and therefore it is like a male monkey meets a female money and only to realize that it was a LION wearing a female, monkey mask, then the poor male monkey gets eaten by the LION. In order for it to be fully fair, and I know you probably are one of the great ones, not a deceiver, im just clearing up WHY IN THE HELL WOULD THEY BE MAD? In order for it to be fair tho, the animal in nature must not wear a mask without telling the other animal who animal they actually are. because the xy male is seeking the xx female in this instance. I am sure with the growing amount of experimental human beings there is a plenty market for Transgendered Humans to receive and give love with someone who totally knows the truth and has nothing but loving compassion for the condition regardless of the way it became. Therefore it is and will always be unfair to a regular male, who instinctively is seeking and xx woman, (this is the magnet that attracts, this is the perpetuation of mankind) to be "tricked" (tricked is a hard word even) to be having a great time Under the presupposed impression that she is a natural xx woman and only to find out the monkey was wearing a mask and he metaphorically gets eaten. that is why someone would be disgusted< I am sure the alpha male and macho man even, would have regular compassion and love and sympathy for someone of transgender naturally, and there are some who are just disgusted because, but I think again that mostly stems to the deceptive transgenders, CMON HUMANITY NOT ONE PERSON COULD SAY IN A BAR INSTANCE OR CLUB, THAT THEY DIDNT REALIZE THE XY MALE WAS INSTINCTIVELY LOOKING TO MAKE A REAL CONNECTION WITH A XX WOMAN. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE MAD..... in order to solve the hate, and transmute this world into total love, we have to be honest from the start especially on an issue of this importance, besides our human bodies, and our egoic mind our basic animal nature calls for the regular connection, and while there is a diverse world of newfound problems, as aforementioned there is a market for even regular xy males have love for a post op transgender there are marriages and everything real love, but this is based on an open honesty from both parties, its the same thing if a man meets a woman in a bank and he doesn't tell her about his alcoholism but they make a connection based on his façade and then she finds out he is a horrible drunk who wastes money ever night, she would be upset. the point is because she was lied to wasn't told the truth, no woman goes out looking for a full blown alcoholic at a bank. IF this does not make sense to you I will be happy to re elaborate on certain parts, and want to hear your feedback. but in order for people and the human race to gain more closer unity as a whole and not separation of the mind, people have to be more honest and its not just transgender but that is a huge topic seeing as its on a chromosomal level which directs us to pro,create. The lion now a days could wear the sexiest full monkey suit and a male monkey would be totally smitten because of his lack of connection to his own true nature as well. HE COULD BE MAD AT A POST OP, BUT HE SHOULD ALSO BE EQUALLY MAD AT HIMSELF AND THINK ABOUT HIS LIFE, IF NOT MORE MAD AT HIMSELF THAN THE TRANS. TO AVOID THE MADNESS OF EITHER PARTY HONESTY IS NECCESARRY IT IS EGO AND EGO ONLY THAT WILL HOLD A POST OP FROM OPENING UP RIGHT AWAY THE TRUE NATURE BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY, ITS SCARY FOR REJECTION AND A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER THINGS BUT, GET OVER YOUR EGO, BE HONEST WITH EVERYONE WHEN YOU KNOW ITS NEEDED.

AND IF YOU LIVE LIFE AS A TRANSGENDER, I BELIEVE YOU CAN STILL FIND WHOLE HEARTED FULLFILLMENT IN LIFE AND TRUE AND PURE LOVE IF YOU ARE OPEN AND HONEST AT THE VERY FORFRONT YOU MUST GET OVER YOUR SCAREDNESS. THE MOST SUCCESFULL RELATIONSHIPS START WHEN THE TWO PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT MATCH UP ARE COMPLETELY HONEST OTHERWISE WE JUST LUSTING AND BEING SELFISH?

I believe homophobia and transphobia are caused by fear of a part of one's self that each and every person tries so desperately to hide. Trans people leave them feeling vulnerable and exposed because we are not afraid to show our true selves, yet they have little courage and hide behind their exterior shield, their tough guy image, because this will protect them from the emotions they deny themselves and the pain. Homophobia is their way of dealing with their internal pain and of proving to the rest of the world that they really are who they are pretending to be. I believe educating people is the only way to fight homophobia; combat their fear and ignorance with love, compassion, and understanding.

I'm afraid you've used too many syllables for your intended audience, LOL. But I suspect that what you're dealing with here is a primitive fear of homosexuality. And perhaps with fear of social stigma in the event of disclosure, as well.

I was hoping some of our favorite jerks would answer,,but I really didn't think they would. They hate to be confronted with the truth..Another great question Erica.

If only those people could be persuaded by logic...

This is a very well-written and well-presented argument, I thoroughly enjoyed it :)

You're my new favorite YA member lol.

Erica you are awesome.

*applauds*