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why does 8 ball has varying rules from different countries?
correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like 8 ball is the only Pool game with varying rules from different countries. The varying rules is as follows:
8 ball on the break.
The player wins the game when he or she pocket the 8 ball on the break. Other countries don't agree, instead they re-spotted the 8 ball and continue the same rack.
Determining your group of balls.
1) Your group of balls are determined by the balls you pocket on the break. 1-7 is solid ( or low balls ) and 9-15 are stripes ( or high balls ) . therefore if you pocket 1 ball then your group is solid, if you pocket 9, your group is stripe. If you pocket 1 solid and 2 stripes, your balls will be stripe because the majority of the balls you pocket are stripe.
2) The table is open after the break regardless if you pocket any balls. The player who break and pocket any ball must select which group he want to play.
3) The table remain open until one of the players pocketed their selected group of balls.
Foul on 8 ball
1) The player lose the game when he or she miss, foul, or scratch after a contact on last ball ( 8 ball ).
2) The player lose the game when he or she pocketed the 8 ball while one of his or her group of balls are still on the table.
3) The player also lose the game when he or she contacted the 8 ball first while his or her group of balls are still on the table.
4 Answers
- trickshottim.comLv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
Rule differences stem from a few sources. First of all, there's the chiefly British game of 8 ball (also called blackball) which is played on small tables with one set of red balls and one set of yellow balls plus the black ball. Then there's the more Americanized version with numbered balls in solids and stripes. This is probably the biggest factor for the differences you mention - it's the fact that they are really two different games. But sometimes, the rules have intermingled, making a confusing mess for anybody who doesn't or hasn't read standardized rules.
The '8 on the break' rule may be attributed to the fact that on coin-op tables, if you pocket the 8 on the break, you can't get it back, so the breaker might as well win.
The differences in determination of groups comes from the two different games. The break is a lucky shot and the shooter shouldn't be punished if he makes a particular group but has no good shot on that group.
Loss of game fouls are less clear cut. Situation 2 is fairly standard across the board though. For situation 1, it's usually only if the 8 ball is also pocketed and a foul or scratch occurs. And I've never heard of situation 3.
Check out the world-standardized rules at the link below. The vast majority of competitive tournaments will follow these rules. Plus if you get a printed copy, you certainly have more proof than any one else that these rules are the way to go.
- 1 decade ago
8 ball is the game that everyone plays, and people who dont know the rules like to think they do, so invent/impose their own rules while playing... as a result, there are more than a dozen of different rules whenever you play in a bar room where the players are not regulars to competitions.
However, most competitions or tournaments follow the BCA rules, and to answer your questions:
1) eight ball on break is pretty obscure, i've played it both ways with people who claim to follow the BCA rules... bottom line, making the 8 ball off the break is so rare, this rule discrepancy is not really that significant... just make sure to agree on one way or the other before the start of the match.
2) the table is ALWAYS open after the break regardless of what is made off the break. to claim a group of balls, the shooter will need to legally pocket a ball of that group following the break...
3) the shooter does not lose the game by scratching or committing a foul while shooting the eight ball ONLY if the eight ball stays on the table... in cases where the eight ball is made along with the scratch and foul, that's a loss of game... same thing goes with jumping the eight ball off the table... bottom line, as long as the eight ball remain on the playing surface, you dont lose the game.
like i've said, just make sure to agree on a set of rules before you start the match, i've gotten to a point where i ask my opponent what rules they play by, and i play by their rules... because it's just not worth the effort to argue with them or to educate them the "official" rules... just make sure you play the best you can, the better player should still end up on top!
hope this helps
- Anonymous5 years ago
That's a foul for not contacting the 8-ball first. You get ball in hand. He hasn't lost immediately.
