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What, specifically, is to be gained by approving same-sex marriages?

On a TV talk show this morning, the inability to visit one's same-sex partner while he was in the hospital (only "spouses" were permitted visiting rights) was mentioned.

We need approval for same-sex marriages because of this? Obviously not.

But we will be re-defining the meaning of "marriage" if there are (and, there probably ARE) other worth-while reasons for doing so.

Now, having said that, is there no other alternative to allowing same-sex partners to live, and function as a legal couple without infringing on the age-old male/female- natural parents of

a baby-to-be definition of the word?

Why does a concept that has been in existence for ages have to give way to a fairly recent change in our structure of society?

Would it not be easier all-round to just CALL it something different?

Does it HAVE to be in a church or City Hall?

Why the pomp and ceremony? Why does it have to be sanctified? Would that hospital been more readily appeased if the same-sex partner had his marriage-license with him? Or a ring on his finger?

What's next with this dumbest of all "god's little creatures"?

I swear......dogs have more common sense than human beings.

No wonder Muslims hate us.

Update:

Linda G.

Space precludes a more lengthy response, but first of all, religion does not enter into my thinking. How did you make THAT connection?

Second of all, can you think of a reason why any health insurance company would be thrilled to cover a male half of a same sex marriage when their initial intent was to cover a non-working mother staying at home caring for the children?

I'm not saying this is right or wrong, mind you.....but do you see the ramification here (one of many.....and dollar-based at that!) that would extend throughout our socio-economic structure? Are you an economics major? No? Because it certainly would take one to spell out the pluses and minuses, finance-wise, for our economy.......(yeah!; our poor little old economy).....and for the sake of gratifiying the wishes of this new section of society who wish to be regarded as legitimate-by-statute.

Update 2:

Krazy;

Good answer, son. I appreciate that; I really do. I honestly did not know many (most) of those.

But this raises another issue, and I touched on it in my P.S. to Linda G..

I noticed many of those benefits (dollar- based) were initially instituted by our law-makers with the idea of "mom-at-home-raising-junior" suddenly being widowed.

I would imagine a certain philosophy was used in justifying a rather sizeable portion of the countries wealth in making those allotments to "mom"

Would it be fair to say that, just perhaps, those same philosophies would not stand up in the face of a male-male "marriage" (all things considered)?

Tell me: why should a healthy male, probably working, receive benefits from the loss of the "bread-winner" in the family?

You can probably think of many reasons "for".........as I might think of many reasons "against"

Has all this been debated so far?

I don't think so.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
    Favorite Answer

    Well, here are the basic rights at present being denied to gay partners in most places:

    Joint parental rights of children

    Joint adoption

    Status as "next-of-kin" for hospital visits and medical decisions

    Right to make a decision about the disposal of loved ones remains

    Immigration and residency for partners from other countries

    Crime victims recovery benefits

    Domestic violence protection orders

    Judicial protections and immunity

    Automatic inheritance in the absence of a will

    Public safety officers death benefits

    Spousal veterans benefits

    Social Security

    Medicare

    Joint filing of tax returns

    Wrongful death benefits for surviving partner and children

    Bereavement or sick leave to care for partner or children

    Child support

    Joint Insurance Plans

    Tax credits including: Child tax credit, Hope and lifetime learning credits

    Deferred Compensation for pension and IRAs

    Estate and gift tax benefits

    Welfare and public assistance

    Joint housing for elderly

    Credit protection

    Medical care for survivors and dependents of certain veterans

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    You see the arguement with marriage is that it's function is for a man and woman to be joined together in which they can reproduce and create a family. That's all fine and dandy but there's a growing number of couples who are deciding to wait till their in their later years before they marry or join in union with a partner. There's no problem with that I suppose but a number of these people are gone past the baby rearing stage where especially for women their bodies cannot carry a child so where does that leave marriage? Or couples that can't reproduce? Basically these arguements are being used and rightly so. Society has changed and so has the relationships between people. As for gay marriage it's not about changing for one group it's about changing for everyone. I believe the American Oath has "equality and justice for all" so if gay and lesbians aren't allowed to marry it's a contradiction in itself. Plus some are arguing that next will be people marrying animals. Well what they seem to forget is that an animal cannot consent to any behaviour with a human so that goes out the window. It's time to stop making excuses and give equal rights to everyone!

  • The hospital would have less legal recourse to deny said partner. This is what sucks about the inequities that happen with things like this. If I was a chick married to my man I could go into that hospital no questions asked. If I'm a man visiting my man then I get twenty questions and the possibility of not seeing him at all. How the hell is that supposed to be equal??? By being able to have equality in marriage, we'll get equality in other things as well.

  • 1 decade ago

    It's basic civil rights - you want to deny certain rights (and responsibilities) to one specific group based solely on a religious viewpoint. It goes way beyond who can visit whom in a hospital. Because same-sex couples are denied the right to marry, same-sex couples and their families are denied access to the more than 1,138 federal rights, protections and responsibilities automatically granted to married heterosexual couples. Just one of hundreds of examples would be that my husband can only be covered on my medical plan as long as we are married. My gay friend has been in a committed relationship just as long as I have, but cannot get coverage for his partner because they are not allowed to be legally married.

    1. If your religion says that same sex marriage is wrong, then fine, you don't have to perform the ceremonies in your church. Another example would be that if you have been divorced, the Catholic church will not let you be married in their church, but its okay to go to a Justice of the Peace and get married a second time....or third, fourth etc.

    2. A marriage at city hall has nothing to do with religion. It's one official (Judge) and two witnesses and the couple - all of whom sign what amounts to a legal contract between two people. There is no requirement for any type of words to be spoken at all - let alone any to do with religion.

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  • Dass
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Here's a brief list.

    -Joint parenting;

    -Joint adoption;

    -Joint foster care, custody, and visitation (including non-biological parents);

    -Status as next-of-kin for hospital visits and medical decisions where one partner is too ill to be competent;

    -Joint insurance policies for home, auto and health;

    -Dissolution and divorce protections such as community property and child support;

    -Immigration and residency for partners from other countries;

    -Inheritance automatically in the absence of a will;

    -Joint leases with automatic renewal rights in the event one partner dies or leaves the house or apartment;

    -Inheritance of jointly-owned real and personal property through the right of survivorship (which avoids the time and expense and taxes in probate);

    -Benefits such as annuities, pension plans, Social Security, and Medicare;

    -Spousal exemptions to property tax increases upon the death of one partner who is a co-owner of the home;

    -Veterans' discounts on medical care, education, and home loans; joint filing of tax returns;

    -Joint filing of customs claims when traveling;

    -Wrongful death benefits for a surviving partner and children;

    -Bereavement or sick leave to care for a partner or child;

    -Decision-making power with respect to whether a deceased partner will be cremated or not and where to bury him or her;

    -Crime victims' recovery benefits;

    -Loss of consortium tort benefits;

    -Domestic violence protection orders;

    -Judicial protections and evidentiary immunity;

    By the way, if non-white people, interracial couples and people who want divorces had the right to change the definition of marriage, we sure as hell do.

  • 1 decade ago

    "What, specifically, is to be gained by approving same-sex marriages?" - more happy people. That is all.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    there really isn't a good reason other than forcing everyone to tolerate ( read 'approve') of their lifestyle.

    any realistic and logical argument is not possible here...

    Source(s): hav ehad gay friends and they also never have a valid argument any more than the y'a community does.
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