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Has anyone demonstrated by use of a "working model" how the 3 World Trade Centre Buildings collapsed on 911?

All 3 World Trade Centres Buildings (1, 2 & 7) collapsed completely into their own footprints on Sept 11 2001.

This unprecedented collapse (outside of controlled demolitions) has been attributed to raging fires but has anyone managed to back up this "theory" with a "working model" to demonstrate the mechanics of such a collapse?

World Trade CENTRE Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper. It collapsed on 9/11/2001 at 5:20 pm. Most people have yet to learn about this incredible collapse.

Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHIj9wzbYGQ&feature...

In particular, Building number 7 is very strange....

Building 7 was the third skyscraper to be reduced to rubble on September 11, 2001. According to the government, fires, primarily, levelled this building, but fires have never before or since destroyed a steel skyscraper.

The team that investigated the collapse were kept away from the crime scene. By the time they published their inconclusive report in May, 2002, the evidence had been destroyed.

Why did the government rapidly recycle the steel from the largest and most mysterious engineering failure in world history, and why has the media remained silent?

All scientific theories can be demonstrated with a "working model".

Is there a "working model" which can demonstrate the mysterious events of 911?

P.S.

By "working model" I do NOT mean fancy graphics, anyone can make a video graphic to back up anything.

Believe me,....I only want the TRUTH here.

If ANYONE can point to where a proper scientific model which explains exactly how fires caused these buildings (all 3 of them) to collapse completely into there own foundations I'd be most appreciative.

All thoughts of course are welcome,....even the silly name callers.

Peace.

All thoughts welcome.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    No-one has ever produced a working model to demonstrate 'PHYSICALLY' how fires brought down ANY of the 3 WTC buildings that collapsed PERFECTLY on to their foundations, just as if they were demolished by professional controlled demolition experts,.....NO-ONE!

    Great question.

  • 1 decade ago

    We will never know what happened.

    The beauty of the information age is elegant in its simplicity. We can hide the truth of anything by making truth itself suspect. The destruction of truth is self perpetuating so the effort to hide the truth is small and simple. The truth is out there but so is all the BS in the world. So finding the truth is like locating a specific pebble on the bottom of the ocean. You can say whatever you like on the internet. You can post anything that you desire and call it fact. You can support your fiction with dozens of tables and figures equally fabricated. You can tell the truth or tell a lie and who can actually tell the difference?

    There is so much misinformation, fabricated information, real theories, fake theories and real debunking and fake debunking that how can we possibly find the truth in all the garbage? And if we did find it who would believe it and would we even know for sure that what we found was truth?

    If 9-11 was an inside job we will never know. If our government did the deed they have gotten away with it. Think about it. Even if you found the smoking gun, even if you found a signed memo from some member of the government detailing a plan and authorizing an attack who would believe you? There is so much fakery and so many lies and so many claims that yours would be just one more. You real memo would not appear any more convincing than the dozens of professionally faked memos that are already on the net. Your real evidence would be no more believable than all of the faked testimony and evidence and scientific reports that argue for either theory or a dozen more theories.

    No. We lost this one. The truth will never be known because even if it was right in front of us we could never separate it from the fiction.

    Not to mention a lot of us have been conditioned to disbelieve anything which doesn't come from a government source. If someone is labeled a conspiracy theorist than they could say the sky is blue and be called a liar. We are conditioned to violently reject any idea labeled conspiracy theory by the government. Thats brilliant I have no idea how they pulled it off but many of us actually fear even hearing a non-sanctioned idea. You can't get better protection than that.

  • 1 decade ago

    NIST claimed to have done it. NIST being part of the Executive Branch, it was just another cover up. And Popular Mechanics (Hearst / yellow journalism) also claims to have studied the whole event 'scientifically'. Both are a joke.

    Here's some reading you may find interesting:

    Welcome to Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth. We are a non-partisan association of more than 1,000 A/Es, with about 10,000 affiliates from all over the world. We are technical professional representing more than 25,000 years of collective experience. We do not offer conspiracy theories.

    We believe that there is sufficient evidence to conclude that the World Trade Center buildings 1 (North Tower), 2 (South Tower), and 7 (the 47 story high-rise across Vesey St.) were destroyed NOT by jet impact and fires but by controlled demolition with explosives. We therefore call upon Congress for a truly independent investigation with subpoena power.

    http://ae911truth.org/news/41-articles/343-1000-ar...

    But of course it is an “unscientific method” when one starts with a conclusion and then finds

    just those facts that support that conclusion while ignoring everything else – that is “pathological

    science.” An obvious example of pathological science is evidently demonstrated by NIST regarding

    the collapse of WTC7 (which was not hit by a jet): “fires and damage did it, just look at floors 8 to 46

    and tell us how fires made it collapse straight down.” No! In a scientific method we gather all the

    facts and look at all the floors and test various hypotheses, and we perform experiments. Only then do

    we draw conclusions which are solidly based on all the facts and experiments.

    Interestingly the 9/11 commission report fails to even mention the collapse of WTC 7. The

    NIST report on WTC7 is long overdue. NIST does have photos and videos of the collapse of WTC 7

    which they have refused to release despite Freedom of Information Act requests.

    http://wtc.nist.gov/media/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf

    FEMA was in New York on September 10

    9/11 Security Courtesy of Marvin Bush

    Who Told Giuliani the WTC was going to collapse?

    There Were No 800ºC Infernos in the Twin Towers

    The "Truss Theory": A Fantasy Concocted to Conceal a Demolition

    Evidence of WTC Demolition

    Videos of the Controlled Collapse of WTC 7

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wrh_9-11...

  • 1 decade ago

    Here you go: It's made by that disreputable communist propaganda source 'National Geographic' so I am sure it is not as reliable as an amateur home video produced by three seventeen year old bloggers but for what it's worth, it answers your question and also references a number of related studies and investigations as well.

    http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/9-11...

    P.S. for all you physics majors: If you watch the videos of the collapses, you will easily observe that both towers failed first at the points of impact where the planes struck and the fires initiated and when those points of the structures failed, the floors above indeed toppled sideways to an extent. With loads such as those that occur in highrise buildings, the gravitational inertia ultimately overwhelms any and all lateral thrust so even though the top portions commenced toppling sideways, they immediately crumbled then fell directly downward. All remaining portions below fell precisely the way any first grader that has attended a single science class would tell you they would expect mass to fall. A controlled demolition, when executed to perfection, confines all debris to an area that barely exceeds the footprint of the structure while in the WTC collapse, portions of both structures fell onto (and caused subsequent partial collapses of) neighboring structures while other debris showered the streets for multiple city blocks in all directions. The WTC collapse was demonstrably and indisputably as 'uncontrolled' as the laws of physics can possibly allow the uncontrolled collapse of a highrise building to occur. This is painfully remedial stuff and in all honestly, you don't need much more than just plain old layman's intuition to appreciate these excruciatingly obvious insurmountable facts. Yeah but, yeah but, yeah but, nothin'! The evidence that suggests 'controlled demolition'? ABSOLUTE ZERO. The evidence that suggests uncontrolled collapse? 100%. THESE ARE NOT 'OPINIONS'. Nothing about it is subject to any remote form of 'interpretation'. You are all arguing with PHYSICS and physics is NOT arguable! You are embarrassing yourselves.

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    1 decade ago

    Popular Mechanics gathered together some of the top structural engineers and scientists specializing in such fields as thermodynamics to figure all of these things out. They did a heckuva job of it too, publishing their results in a book called "Debunking 9/11 Myths." The problem is that the conspiracy theorists, despite "only seeking the truth" like yourself, refused to accept any of their research and claimed it must be sponsored by the government to reinforce their lies. This kind of mentality makes it impossible for a conspiracy theorist to believe any contrary information because he turns conflicting views into additional conspiracy theories.

  • 1 decade ago

    yes of course they have, I believe some Egyptians and Saudis did that once with disastrous results..

    the conspiracy theorists say you can see the explosions blowing out the tower windows as it collapses, until an expert explained it was the pressure of the floors collapsing with in the structure. figured than I'd believe wise people over stupid people..

  • 1 decade ago

    1. nothing collapsed on 911, the 911 system is working fine.

    2. don't worry when the aliens get here in 2012 all your questions and concerns will be answered.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I have also wondered why the crime scene was sanitized so quickly and the evidence removed from the country, without any forensic examination.

  • 1 decade ago

    You do understand that steel does not have to fully melt to become pliable, right? I used to have a job that consisted of heating up metal and bending it using a torch. You can make the torch hot enough to melt the steel, but to just bend it you only need to heat it up. 3 or 4 hundred degrees is hot enough to bend steel.

  • 1 decade ago

    The History Channel had a great show about the details of it. I would check it out.

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