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Anonymous asked in SportsBoxing · 1 decade ago

how would floyd mayweather go down in history if he won 7 titles in 7 diff divisions?

floyd mayweather is an all time great regardless of what his haters say. let's see how well he'd do if he tried to even up with manny in terms of title runs.

floyd has already won 5 titles in 5 diff divisions. pac got his 6th title against the lineal champion of jr welterweight and was undefeated at 140 so lets try to see floyd doing the same thing. to even up, he would need to face an undefeated man and the champion of middleweight division to have it in line with the way pac did it. the current champion is not undefeated but we'll take him as an example. there was NO CATCHWEIGHT when pac got his 6th title so lets match floyd against sergio martinez at the full 160 pound mark.

HOW WOULD FLOYD MAYWEATHER FAIR AGAINST SERGIO MARTINEZ at 160?

if floyd mayweather is to win 7 titles in 7 diff divisions then he must go up to supermiddleweight right? pac took on cotto who not only a top welter but was a top pound for pound guy. let's take andre ward as his opponent who is nowhere near the top 10 pound for pound ranking. let's have a catchweight of 165. now that is 3 pounds less of the 168 limit just so it would be much easier for floyd coz i know some would bring in the argument that pac took on cotto at 145. 2 lbs less than the 147 lb limit right? but let's cut 3 pounds off andre and let's see.

HOW WOULD FLOYD MAYWEATHER FAIR AGAINST ANDRE WARD AT 165?

Update:

@everybody

thanks to your answers, with all these reactions we now know that it aint a simple thing what that midget has done. we all know floyd will go down in history that is very obvious but the what we like to know is how much more or what kind of impact would it be had floyd won 7 titles the way manny won it?

@denzel

what have you been taking girl? you're the only one sayin my questions are irrelevant. we may have diff views but you certainly didnt have any logical response whatsoever. look at the mayweather fans who answered the question. notice how smart their answers are compared to your whining. have a good day

Update 2:

and all you can say is they're too big? how the hell did you fail to realize that manny was in the very same situation and succeeded. think your answers over coz yah letting yaself down

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  • 1 decade ago
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    I can't ever see Floyd becoming a 7 division champion for a few reasons. One, every title he ever won was won in a division where there was a more worthy fighter, at the time he won the title.

    Another reason is that, in this day of paper titles, anyone can win at least 3 titles. Armstrong's 3 means FAR more than ANY of these 5+ champions in these divisions of fractured titles. If you change the rules to the old days, Pacquiao wins about 4 real titles and Mayweather wins 2 or 3.

    Floyd has already committed himself. His career assessment will be largely based on whether or not he fights Manny Pacquiao. Because he has taken his ploy too far, there will always be detractors, even if he defeats Pacquiao.

    However, he will be assessed far more harshly if he doesn't fight Pacquiao. The majority of people will always believe that he feared Pacquiao. That is why Floyd does plan to fight Pacquiao, regardless to the garbage he talks or excuses he makes.

    Anyone who believes that Floyd really wants to "clean up the sport of boxing", is not being realistic. Floyd's only interest is Floyd. He fully intends to fight Pacquiao, but only after he has every possible advantage. Its in his best interest to wait it out. He knows that Team Pacquiao will continue to match Manny against every other world beater in the division, fighters Floyd doesn't intend to "waste" himself on.

    Styles being as they are, Marquez and Mosley are FAR less dangerous than Cotto, Clottey and Margarito. It doesn't matter who loses or wins in probable fights among the rest. Manny's team has too much faith in him and they will end up ruining him against these world beaters. THen, and only then, will Floyd fight him.

    Floyd knows this because he also knows that, if he doesn't fight Pacquiao, he will be forever labeled a coward. It's like Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis. Bowe TALKED, TALKED and TALKED but never signed the contract. It's because he WAS afraid of Lewis, who is a very nice man but wanted to inflict some SERIOUS hurt on Bowe. Bowe Knew this.

    The final reason Floyd will not win 7 titles is because, in moving up, he loses more of what makes him a good fighter, than Pacquiao lost in moving up. Again, styles. Floyd relies on defense and mobility. Those are the first things a fighter loses upon rising in weight and aging.

    Age will never be a problem for Floyd because he will retire long before he gets too old. He has made money so he is beginning to lose his heart for boxing. That's why he picks his fights and takes little risk. Still, he would not be as effective against a mover like Martinez, who is more natural at 160 than Floyd ever will be.

    Floyd will not take the risk of facing Martinez at 154. If he did, and won, he could possibly erase the taste of "coward" from the mouths of fans. That's not a fight Floyd would want because he will not have many advantages going in. Oscar had lead feet and was past his best when he faced Floyd. Martinez poses an entirely different threat.

    Forget 168. All of those guys are too big for Floyd. In fairness, I dont think anyone can realistically expect Floyd to be effective at 168. He wouldn't even be effective at 160.

    Unless someone comes along and creates a few more plastic titles, there will be no 7 titles for Floyd. He's still chasing Manny's ghost but people forget that Manny started as a boy and in a much smaller division. He was still growing when he visited those divisions under 135.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Those guys are too big for Floyd and you know that. Floyd's natural weight isn't even 165, how in the world would he fight at that weight ? Your questions are always so damn irrelevant to boxing, and how the sport works.

    Second - Floyd said it himself, he doesn't fight for belts. He doesn't because he does not want to pay the commission 2% of his purse.

    EDIT - Manny has done nothing of the sort. Do you really think at this stage in his career Manny weighs 135 ? NO he probably weighs around 147-150 now. And has weighed that for a while.. Do you know how much Floyd weighs naturally ? about 155.. So how in the world is he fighting at 165 ?

  • Sean G
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Floyd will go down in history. ESPN already listed him in the top 50 fighters ever.He has 6 World Titles in 5 weight classes...So he is 1 title and 2 weight classes short. I think he could in a tough battle win at Middleweight with the smallish Champion (Sergio Martinez) that we have today. I have a hard time imagining him beating any title holder at 168. Ward and Bute are just too big and strong and would show Floyd his first loss. Right now...he is a 1st ballot Hall Of Famer.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    It doesn't mean much anymore. It did back in the old days, and even when Leonard and Hearns were hitting 4 & 5. But now there are SO MANY titles, it's just not nearly as difficult.

    I know it still takes a talented fighter to move up in weight like that, but you also have to remember the new divisions as well as the whole "catchweight" thing. I think it cheapens things.

    If Floyd wants a title at 168, the fight should be at 168. Not 161. **Cough Cough** Ray Leonard**cough cough***

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    He's going down in history either way, the amount of titles a particular fighter wins is something to talk about, but in boxing today's political situation it is not as significant as it was in the days of Fitzsimmons or Armstrong. Still, after all is said and done, if Manny and Floyd do not fight each other and their careers end with Manny having won titles in more weight classes than Floyd, that factor will be taken into account by experts and weigh heavily in Manny's favor over Floyd historically. Personally I think Martinez would beat Floyd much like Winky Wright beat Mosley, Floyd isn't aggressive enough to beat a bigger guy with comparable speed to him. Andre Ward or Andre Dirrell would easily KO Mayweather, it wouldn't even be competitive.

  • vino
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Definitely Floyd will go down in history regardless what will happen to him form here.

    For me, winning belts nowadays is not as hard as compared how should it be won 10-20 years ago. I want to emphasize my point that, nowadays belts can be spoon fed to boxers who can be pleasing to the eys of the fan, those are boxers that are termed as "OVERRATED" boxers. So for me, belts are not significant nowadays.

    What is more compelling act a fighter could do is to fight the fighters who are the real contenders in in that weight class in the eyes of FANS and WRITERS.

    Now, to answer the match-ups you have written.

    Floyd vs. Sergio might go either way. IMO, both are slick fighters but"'Money" might loss some of his advantages when climbing to 160. I think a different outcome if both fight at 154 limit.

    Floyd vs Andre might be a bad move for Floyd. Although I may see a UD in favor of Andre, FLoyd might pull an upset who knows?

    All that I state might happened if and only if FLoyd step up and decides to finally face real challenges that he used to do during his early career.

    Source(s): Humble opinion...
  • Woody
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    All I will say is if Mayweather could win a title at middleweight and super middleweight, then that would make his seven-division titles slightly more impressive than Pacquiao's. The only reason I say is because, Mayweather would've accomplished this goal in heavier divisions than Pacquiao. Also, these are divisions in which the weight ranges are greater and greater.

    Anyway, regardless of what I think of Mayweather doing something like that, it wouldn't happen, especially winning a title at super middleweight.

  • He would be viewed the exact same way he is now. Why, how you ask. It’s because there is nobody at those assumed weights that garners any historical respect from the legitimate writers/historians of sports. It is these keepers of the ink that determine the greatness of man in sport & control the plight historical significance. I don’t care how devoted to sport any fan is these ink people make their/our interests irrelevant and control how most view particular athletes. This is accomplished because we as fans in general have no exposure to the inner workings of the sports we enjoy, which forces us to depend on them for information. This boils down to sometimes silly (other times foolish) opinions on character, work-ethic and personality based on the writings of men who seldom disclose their bias.

    Here are a few examples:

    Baseball

    Barry Bonds is a bad guy, bad teammate and clubhouse cancer. This was the prevailing expression by the press years before the allegations of steroids and damaged his image in the public’s eye. Was he any of those things? Nope.

    Frank Thomas- He’s a great guy, model citizen & great in the clubhouse! Well, guess what the guy was a jerk in the clubhouse, a bad teammate and a jackass to everyone but the press.

    Boxing

    Sugar Ray Robinson- His greatness in the ring extended to all facets of life. A flat out lie the guy beat women like he beat fighters inside the ring & would make Mayweather seem like a saint.

    Ali- Probably the best example in modern sport because of the generational difference of writers commenting on his activities. During the late 60’s he received bad press by those who believed in sacrifice for country & non-boastful ***** champions. From the 70’s present he is considered deity in the sport and righteous for his “political” stance regarding service to his country. It’s no wonder that most of these writers were draft dodgers themselves and rationalize their actions, some would say cowardice, via the directive given to Ali not to fight for religious purposes.

    I could go on & on with these examples but it comes down to this. The press doesn’t put much weight on Manny’s 7 division titles and wouldn’t put much emphasis on Mayweather achieving it either!

    @ Galacticus- Manny is a great fighter, but let us not confuse promotional gimmicks with his actual talent. The last thing Bob Arum would do is ruin his cash cow and let’s be honest Pac hasn’t fought a “world beater” in a long time. He has fought opponents who have been dominant at times during their career, but never during their period of dominance. Fighting a shot Cotto, mentally whooped Margarito and Clotty (can’t believe you actually consider him a world beater) does not= taking on all comers in my book.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    I could see Floyd out-pointing Sergio at 160, but Ward would probably be too big for him....

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