Will any liberals defend the social programs/ fiscal policy state of California?

$21.8 billion: What California and local governments will spend this year for services for illegal immigrants and their children.

They, the libs must pay for votes.

Here is one of many; $21.8 BILLION!!!

Add the UNIONS, teachers teaching nothing, even taking days off on MLK and Chavez days with full pay.

And $2,146 was withdrawn from ATMs by Californians on welfare on the island of Lanai -- home to two expensive resorts: the Koele Lodge and Manele Bay.

Between January 2007 and May 2010, some welfare recipients in California spent their welfare money in Waikiki, including $3,030 at shops in the International Marketplace next to Jimmy Buffett's Restaurant and Bar along Kalakaua Avenue, the newspaper said.

You are barking up the wrong tree if you think that fomenting a partisan debate will in any way help solve the fiscal problems in California. Both parties got us into this mess, but even more to blame are the institutions responsible for our country's monetary policies. Yep, that's right, the Fed, the giant money center banks, and central banks of nations around the world.

Ask yourself this. Even if politicians were irresponsible with their social programs and fiscal policies, how is it possible that they all managed to crash their national, provincial, state, etc, economies and managed to bust their budgets all around the world, simultaneously? If you think about it, it simply wasn't possible for politicians to do that. There must have been a systemic problem.

Then, consider that the only nations and states that did not fall into recession were the ones who had something very far from the typical banking system or policies. For example, Lebanon was almost completely unfazed by the worldwide financial crisis because of their unusually high bank reserve ratios, plus the governor of Lebanon's central bank ordered all private banks to divest themselves of mortgage-backed-securities in 2007. In the US, the only state that escaped the financial crisis relatively unscathed was North Dakota. Ellen Brown has done a good job of publicizing the reason why - they have their own state bank.

No, the Great Recession we are in cannot be laid off on any political party or socialist/capitalist bogeyman. This crisis, just like the Great Depression, has the credit-based banking system itself and extreme leverage due to low reserve ratios as its cause. The banks, however, would rather have you Democrats/Republicans squabble endlessly instead of focusing on them.

I hope that it's the model. Now that we got rid of the 2/3 requirement for budget passage in the legislature, California's finances are one of the best in the US. We've already had to bite the bullet. It's the other 49 that are catching up.

And the only people rioting are the Teabag Talibaners who don't understand the world around them.

No but the fact that they have economic trouble has nothing to do with that. There is a worldwide recession. How do you explain the fact that TX is going to have a $20 billion budget shortfall the next 2 years.

What do liberals have to do with California?

Anyway, no, no one wants the US to be like California.

Why should we defend something when its a Republican governor since 2003.

Go ask him.

yes, yes & yes