Can fundamentalist Christians see the good in a gay person?

Sadly, most fundamentalists cannot see beyond that. As you have seen here, they called gay love a sin and pure lust and that it is an 'ugly sin' and that gays will go to hell if they remained as such.

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I have some friends who are happy to label themselves 'fundamentalist' and yes, of course they can see the good in someone. Whatever their sexuality.

Fundamentalists you see are often grouped together with the wackos like the Westboro Baptist lot. When actually they are just as diverse as any other group. Yes, some believe the Bible is clear on gay sex (gay *people* however, like anyone else, are seen as neighbours and fellow humans and the commandment to love them is unambiguous). Others struggle with the idea that gay people might have to live without the love we take for granted because of something they cannot change.

I'll star your question. Maybe one of my friends will care to answer. And if not, well, please remember, not all Christians are the same. Even fundamentalists.

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This is a great question to get the Fundamentalist Christians thinking. The sad truth is that most of will say something along the lines of "That's great that he's trying, but he'll still be destroyed when Armageddon comes." or something similar to that.

Meanwhile, they wouldn`t say the same thing about a person who has given as much as Sir Elton John has, even though that person is clearly engaging in premarital sex. Doesn`t the Bible also forbid fornication? They`ll accept that, but won`t accept homosexuality. Double standards and total hypocrisy!

The mercy to any sinner would extend to Elton John as well. Since, so far as I know, Elton John does not profess to be a Christian, it certainly is not my place to try and "correct" him. He is talented, successful, and by your account, generous. He is also openly homosexual and now has a "child". What would happen if the surrogate decided she wanted to invoke her parental rights? (Has nothing to do with the question, just pure unbridled curiosity on my part.)

Sir Elton is quite generous. I am sure he is even a nice guy and a friendly person. This is not in question.

I will say, though, that being a homosexual will not deny him part in God's Kingdom. Homosexuality is a symptom of a heart separated from God.

A person's refusal of God is what will separate them from Him for eternity.

Not to sound so mean but, God created mankind and He gave them his laws/rules to follow which is right for their life.

To answer your question about seeing good in a homosexual person, Well I agree with God, He said there is no one righteous, not even one, there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God, All have turned away, they have together become worthless, there is no one who does good, not even one. (Romans 3:10-12).

So, therefore it does not matter to God how much giving of money to help causes, you just don't score any points and clear yourself in his eyes because you are refusing to do as he commands.

The bible says: You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female, it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13)

Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them.

For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped, and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever, Amen.

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions, for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,

and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another,

men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. (Romans 1:24-27)

Jesus looks at the sexual sin of Mr. John because that is what Jesus is about. He died for your sins and therefore nothing that you do is of no importance nor can it help or save you, only Jesus.

What you need to do is read the bible especially the Gospel of John and the book of Romans and find out what God is about. He's about your soul and heart, not what you can do or achieve on this earth.

It's about where you"ll spend eternity, so where will you spend eternity Heaven or Hell? It is your choice, you know.

So Mr. Elton John may in the eyes of the worldly people be doing good, but not according to God.

Because his homosexuality is a very ugly sin, of which he proudly display for all the world to see.

What Mr. John should do is repent of his sins and turn to the Lord and receive him as Lord and Savior.

No one is denying all the giving to different organizations that Mr. John has given to that is all fine and dandy but what about how he flaunt and parade openly and proudly the sin homosexuality and yet you get outraged at Christians for defending the word of God and exposing that ugly sex sin.

TRUTH HURTS! OUCH!!!!!!!

You either have to try and do it God's way or its your own wrong way, which will you choose? It is evident that Mr. Elton John has chosen to do things his own wrong way.

Give your heart to Jesus and follow the word of God and then you'll began to see things the way God does.

Well, I suppose that I'm a fundamentalist according to the definition given on Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Christ...

I like Elton John - you know what I really like? "Tiny Dancer." Now that, is a good song.

To answer the question plainly, "yes."

I am not christian but i do believe in the messiah. I see the good in all beings because I am flesh too. Since almost the beginning of humans, their has been homosexuality and bisexuality. It is apart of being fleshly. Believers in the true messiah are not to judge those outside the assembly. Therefore; if you are not in my assembly i have to accept you. Not what you do, but you as an idividual.

I love EJ's songs -- beautiful voice!!!

That said, the base line question remains, what has he done with a call on life to Christ. Did he accept Christ, or did he not?

On BTW, there are hundreds and hundreds of unsung, unknown, unseen, sincere Christians who work in the most roughest of places, with danger to life and limb, and only a "call to serve God" being their only reason for being there. They work day and night among those who are gay, homeless, prostitutes, ones with AIDs, among the ones that you and I would not give a second glance. Elton John, for all his millions of dollars in donations, couldn't "hold a candle" to one of those.

A mother-father parenting arrangement is most beneficial for children and society, and public policy should support and assist this increasingly at-risk arrangement rather than contribute further to its demise. Church considerations aside, as marriages and families go, so goes the culture. A society will be as healthy and strong as the family units that constitute it. If families are fragmented and dysfunctional, societies will be as well.

We must be careful about defining the ideal about marriage, or family, according to current culture trends. Just because a third of all children in the United States are born out of wedlock, this is far from optimal. Average isn’t ideal or normal, such as the average temperature of patients in hospital beds may be well above normal. That said, we should give credit and support to abandon, or widowed, single mothers who raise their children alone or to grandparents who raise their grandchildren without the help of perhaps deadbeat parents. Nevertheless, it is the traditional two-parent arrangement that helps provide an important balance that other arrangements, including gay marriage, don’t help promote.

Sociologist David Popenoe argues that fathers and mothers make complementary contributes to the lives of their children: “Children have dual needs that must be met [by the complementarily of male and female parenting styles]: One for independence and the other for relatedness, one for challenge and the other for support.” A child doesn’t just ‘parents;’ she needs a mother and father, and must learn to relate to each in different ways. Maggie Gallagher argues in ‘The Case for Marriage’ that cultures and communities die when the marriage idea dies out. Gay marriage traditionally separates marriage and parenting, which marriage traditionally has not done: When you were ready to marry, you were ready to have children.

In Scandinavia or the Netherlands, what cohabitation and then legal equalization of marriage and cohabitation began, legalized gay marriage expanded and reinforced. In 2000 the ‘Los Angeles Times’ reported that Scandinavians have “all but given up on marriage as a framework for family living, preferring cohabitation even after their children are born.” For example, the number of children living with married parents dropped 16 percent from 1989 to 2002, 77 percent to 62 percent. With legalized gay marriage, which further reinforces the separation of marriage and children, the plummeting continues: Norwegians started to shift from treating the first child as the test of a possible marriage, to giving up on marriage altogether.

A similar trend has taken place in Holland, as Stanley Kurtz has shown. Furthermore, it is well-known that gay men tend to be more sexually promiscuous and more emotionally dethatched than women; this consideration alone does not encourage family stability. As gay marriage tends to diminish the family rather than reinforce it, we should be careful about rushing to legalize it and further destabilize the institution of marriage.