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Who produced The Who's second album?

Merely idle curiosity. What brought it to mind was a bit of musing on the differences between their first album, My Generation, and their second, A Quick One. (which I think might have originally been titled "Happy Jack". Not that that really matters.)

To start with, their first album was recorded (or over-recorded) rather poorly. It's noisy. I think I read once that that album was recorded in a hurry. Not a big surprise, they had yet to prove themselves an act that could sell a lot of discs. The engineers were probably underpaid rookies. If I remember right the producer was a guy named Shel Talmy. I don't know anything else about him except that I don't think he lasted long. That album also contained songs that sounded much more like American R&B than British Invasion. You can imagine Mitch Ryder and The Detroit Wheels doing some of those songs.

Their second album has much cleaner sound. It also sounds a lot more "Mod". Glyn Johns was their producer all through their heyday. Is this when he joined up?

While we're on the subject of producers, what exactly is their role? I've heard that part of their role is to come up with canned sounds that the artist might need. But there must be more to it than that.

I suspect that he's also the head sound engineer. Maybe the only engineer is some cases. I've seen hints before that the producer also has authority over the artist, at least in those cases of artists who have not proven themselves money-makers yet. (Though there must be some give and take there. It's hard to picture George Martin actually being boss over The Beatles. But maybe he could have vetoed a song that he really objected to?)

Perhaps the producer is more the agent of the record label than of the artist? Is he, maybe, the one with the responsibility to provide the lable with a marketable product? Something that is recorded properly and that won't get them in trouble over copyright issues or with legislators, Mothers Against Obscene Songs and stuff like that? Would that be the producers function?

Update:

Kit Lambert! I should have known. I probably did at one time.

It also makes me suspect that Lambert produced "The Who Sell Out". It kinda feels like a progression from "A Quick One".

"Tommy" feels a bit like a transition from The Who of the sixties to The Who of the seventies. Could this be Glyn Johns debut?

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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  • 1 decade ago

    Shel Talmy produced My Generation. Kit Lambert produced A Quick One.

  • 1 decade ago

    The first answerer is correct...

    Shel Talmy is quite a figure in rock. For one thing, he was American, not British. He had a dirtier, rawer sound than was customary on British records at the time (he also produced the Kinks through most of the 60's, plus the Easybeats and David Bowie's earliest stuff), which was at odds with most of the British labels, but also sounded great; like American R&B records. Later, he worked with Pentangle and Cat Stevens.

    Talmy was also a character... When he arrived in England, in his early 20's, he had little on his resume except having worked for a couple of years as a sound engineer. So, he just lied, and told record labels that he produced the Beach Boys.

    Kit Lambert, the Who's manager, couldn't stand Talmy, and fired him during "My Generation" Talmy actually sued him and won in court for breach of contract, and finished the album. He retained ownership of that album, which held up its release on CD until 2002.

    The role of a producer is manyfold: the producer is also often the arranger, he has input on what sounds to include, he decides how the band should be recorded, and in some cases, procures the material. He works in tandem with a sound engineer, whose job is to work as a technician on the audio equipment.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Kit Lambert

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  • 1 decade ago

    Kit Lambert

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